what is generally the best OC for freezing dreadnaught using cryo cannon?

[HoloLiveSonic™]

I always wanted to get Tuned Cooler with 22232 but i have heard that snowball is great against all 3 dreadnaughts and i havent seen anyone talking about using TC for it, is it better?

[King Fossil]

A scout friend with conductive thermals is best. Stack the debuff and even ice storm can freeze dreads very quickly.

[HoloLiveSonic™]

Originally posted by King Fossil:

A scout friend with conductive thermals is best. Stack the debuff and even ice storm can freeze dreads very quickly.

ic, so ice storm is much more prefer for dreadnaught mission? it seems it has a greater power to it, is it better then snowball then?

[babuk.fracal]

When alone (as in, you are the only one with freeze)

Tuned cooler and crystal nucleation tend to freeze dreads the quickest

Flow rate expension (when taking T2C bypassed integry check) and Improved thermal efficiency are good for T5B cold radiance.

Snowball has the benefit of being a bit safer to use because of range while also having the ability to prevent dreads to loose their freeze level for a brief period.



When helped by another cryo driller or a scout using cryo nades and or cryo bolts (not cryo minelets, they really arn't great to freeze dreads), most cryo cannon builds are enough to freeze dreads fast.


When helped by a scout using conduction thermal, any OC freeze dreads extremely fast as long you take cold radiance.
The one that benefit the most from this being ice storm because of its low cold and high Rof that nerf cold radiance but heavily increase the damage dealt on frozen targets.

[King Fossil]

I was just using it as an example, but it might actually be a good idea if you have a conductive scout. The debuff means they'll freeze very fast, and it also increases cold damage so you'll do significantly more damage. Though imperfectly tuned cooler means you'll freeze them nearly instantly so that's also great.
At least I think, I'll admit I haven't actually tested any of this. I'm sure someone who's used conductive thermals vs dreads will show up to tell me I'm right/stupid soon enough.

[babuk.fracal]

Originally posted by HoloLiveSonic™:

Originally posted by King Fossil:

A scout friend with conductive thermals is best. Stack the debuff and even ice storm can freeze dreads very quickly.

ic, so ice storm is much more prefer for dreadnaught mission? it seems it has a greater power to it, is it better then snowball then?

Originally posted by King Fossil:

I was just using it as an example, but it might actually be a good idea if you have a conductive scout. The debuff means they'll freeze very fast, and it also increases cold damage so you'll do significantly more damage. Though imperfectly tuned cooler means you'll freeze them nearly instantly so that's also great.
At least I think, I'll admit I haven't actually tested any of this. I'm sure someone who's used conductive thermals vs dreads will show up to tell me I'm right/stupid soon enough.

snowball isn't affected by CD drak (though its only 3 shots to fully freeze a dread and you might only need 2 and finish the freeze with the beam most of the time)

Tuned cooler + CD does freeze really fast but the damage is much lower than CD + ice storm

[SCamp]

I use Flow Rate Expansion with 31x22 for dread freezing with no outside aid.

Ice Storm is optimal for damage with Conductive Thermals, even if you aren't freezing the elemental defense reduction really ramps up the damage.

Also don't forget to use the ice trail to inflict additional cold.

(I need to try Crystal Nucleation and Snowball on dread missions.)

[RUCKUS RELOADED]

improved thermal efficiency w/ BAACB, hug the dread at all times and abuse cold radiance

ITE is best in slot for its pressure loss reduction and ammo bonuses. you can comfortably freeze any dreadnought twice in one pressure cycle which is usually all you need before they change phases and become invincible regardless

crystal nucleation can work as the ice crystals are helpful for overwriting a dreadnought's thawing rate (how quickly they lose freeze buildup) but it has an ammo penalty and requires more a thorough understanding on how cryo works. ice storm is also ok if you want to do a bit more damage but you need to be even more persistent on radiance abuse and the pressure loss penalty really sucks to deal with

don't run anything with a flow rate bonus, it only makes the gun less efficient and means more ammo wasted between radiance ticks
ice spear is a meme, snowball is useless vs dreads

also, unrelated tip: don't try to freeze the hiveguard until its abdomen is exposed. its health bar is still greyed out until that point, and even if you freeze it, it wont take any damage. conserve your ammo by focusing on the sentinels, and use your secondary for the protrusions

[HoloLiveSonic™]

Originally posted by THE LUNGBUSTER 30 INCHES OF DOOM:

improved thermal efficiency w/ BAACB, hug the dread at all times and abuse cold radiance

ITE is best in slot for its pressure loss reduction and ammo bonuses. you can comfortably freeze any dreadnought twice in one pressure cycle which is usually all you need before they change phases and become invincible regardless

crystal nucleation can work as the ice crystals are helpful for overwriting a dreadnought's thawing rate (how quickly they lose freeze buildup) but it has an ammo penalty and requires more a thorough understanding on how cryo works. ice storm is also ok if you want to do a bit more damage but you need to be even more persistent on radiance abuse and the pressure loss penalty really sucks to deal with

don't run anything with a flow rate bonus, it only makes the gun less efficient and means more ammo wasted between radiance ticks
ice spear is a meme, snowball is useless vs dreads

also, unrelated tip: don't try to freeze the hiveguard until its abdomen is exposed. its health bar is still greyed out until that point, and even if you freeze it, it wont take any damage. conserve your ammo by focusing on the sentinels, and use your secondary for the protrusions

ok, i'll take note on this, thank you