When do you stop being qualified as a greenbeard?

[Bannditbunny]

Im just wondering cuz im lvl 33 and does that still make me a greenbeard?

[Johnno]

If you have to ask, you still are.

[Dotoo]

If you barely use flare gun as Scout, you are.

[Samaldafadra]

Listen here son, you'll always be a Greenbeard. Same for all of us. Even a miner who can speedrun an EDD with both hands tied up is a Greenbeard. Only Karl can be the Greybeard, and he's the best.

In all seriousness (and in my humble opinion) you become a Greybeard when you make an incredibly stupid mistake and say to yourself : "oh I haven't been that stupid in a while".
For example a few days ago I did a Salvage mission and ... I did not take the espace pod while it departed because I was fighting a funny wave of enemies. That's incredibly stupid for a player who has exactly 2141 hours on DRG ah ah

[Heron]

What you do in a mission is what defines your level of Greenbeardism.

That said, I bet every long time player has some expectations when a mission loads up and only levels and promotions are known. Here are mine:

< Lvl 10 / unpromoted: ultra Green, let's hope for the best
< Lvl 30: Green, we'll see how this goes
< Lvl 50: still quite Green, beginner mistakes are to be expected
< Lvl 100: intermediate
> Lvl 100 / silver promotion: should know what he's doing
> Lvl 200+ / Gold promotion+: There's a good chance he's a great player

Once the mission is in progress this quickly becomes completely meaningless.

[DOOM_Dwarf]

Your lvl is a poor indicator. I've played with ppl under lvl 30 that were great players for that lvl range and I was pleasently surprised by their skill.
I've also played with a group around lvl 40 that were the most brain-dead bunch of ultra-greenbeards I have ever witnessed.

I generally consider a player experienced, if they use their support tool (platforms, drills, flares, ziplines...) to their full potencial and know the more intricate strategies on how to use them (bug repellent, cleaning up the terrain with drills...).

And when you start loosing your s**t when ppl are not doing these things, then congrats, you're a greybeard.

Don't let "being a greenbeard" worry you tho, the most important thing is to have fun :)

[Outer Wilds Enjoyer]

Originally posted by DOOM_Dwarf:

Your lvl is a poor indicator. I've played with ppl under lvl 30 that were great players for that lvl range and I was pleasently surprised by their skill.
I've also played with a group around lvl 40 that were the most brain-dead bunch of ultra-greenbeards I have ever witnessed.

I generally consider a player experienced, if they use their support tool (platforms, drills, flares, ziplines...) to their full potencial and know the more intricate strategies on how to use them (bug repellent, cleaning up the terrain with drills...).

And when you start loosing your s**t when ppl are not doing these things, then congrats, you're a greybeard.

Don't let "being a greenbeard" worry you tho, the most important thing is to have fun :)

Not to mention your level stops increasing once your dwarfs are at level 25, so people who don't care much about promotions have their level halted

[Luckyinternaut]

I would not say that greenbeard is about level. In my opinion you are not a greenbeard anymore when you know your role(s) and think/play as a team member. I will then consider you as an experienced dwarf if you are at ease in Haz 4-5 missions.

I have lost missions because dwarves thought they deserved all the ammunitions, and even if they were great fighters, we were overwhelmed when 3/4 of the team run out of ammo.
I have also lost missions because dwarves thought they could handle a Korlock without planning the attack. ^^

[Flanker90]

Originally posted by Heron:

< Lvl 30: Green, we'll see how this goes

Level 22 here. Can confirm. Lots of greenbeardism here.

Mostly stupid mistakes like mismanaging cooldowns, falling to my death for whatever reason, not knowing I can't throw the C4 while I'm in mid-air so I spam LMB as I'm descending and end up detonating it the moment it leaves my hand and blow up myself along with a greybeard or two.

That said, speaking as a driller/scout, I feel like I have a good understanding of my role in the group. Just got a lot of room for improvement.

[Sokaku]

Player level is a hint, but not a true indicator. It just means you've got experience "at something" in the game. You can get to level 500 playing hazard 1 missions, it will just take doing twice the number of missions than doing it at Hazard 3. Does that mean you are or are not "Green"? Going to Level 500 playing Hazard 3 and maybe 4, relatively speaking you will likely still be quite "Green" playing Hazard 5 and EDDs, though you should be at a better point to be able to pick it up and pull your weight pretty quick... Ultimately though, the only thing that matters is "Do I enjoy it?!"

IMHO you are not a Greenbeard at the hazard you are playing at if:
- You can largely complete missions without going down. (**it happens, so even the greyest beards find themselves in situations that end up getting them downed.)
- You can survive a situation where-by you pick up at least one other dwarf.
- You utilize your support tools effectively throughout the mission.
- Your actions or inaction generally does not lead indirectly or directly to the downing of another dwarf. (Again, **it happens, but don't develop bad habits at low hazard levels)
- You know the strengths of your class and weapon configurations and can confidently take the right tools for the job in each mission type.
- The more classes you meet the above criteria with, the better. Ideally you are equally comfortable with all 4 classes. You may have preferences for one or two, but part of being a Greybeard is understanding the strengths and weaknesses of everyone that might be on the team.

That said, you'll still be a Greenbeard, or at least a green tinged beard at all hazard levels above what you can comfortably meet the above criteria.

[SplitSentro]

1k rank, not less

[R.-]

When you stop blaming RNG and try to fix the most difficult situations.

[Wereriche]

I'm just a Casul Hazard 3 Enjoyer :y

[pi73r]

Anyone who dies as 1st without other player's fault is still bad imo

[Gammaboy45]

Honestly, rank has almost nothing to do with it. I'm level 68 by now, and I personally don't consider myself a greenbeard anymore. That said, I've played with lvl 200s who, even when I was at lower levels, seemed to make mistakes. I think once you become confident in your abilities you stop thinking about what to do in a mission and it instead becomes second nature, which means more efficiency but also more dangerous corners are cut. If grabbing 3 eggs at once without telling your team is efficient, then it may be the sort of thing you'd expect to do around other high level players. Lacking a consciousness for other team members' whereabouts and roles is more dangerous than can be overstated.

I think what sets green beards and grey beards apart is both a mix of experience and team oriented thinking. Anyone can get good at solo running an EDD, but communication can make or break high level missions if you bring others with you. I respect players who show both to whom I can ask any question and expect a good and faithful response.
If you are that guy, then you're the greybeard those greenbeards can look up to.

Karl wouldn't leave dwarves behind, that's why we remember him. Be a karl, and you'll grow out grey before too long.

[PotRoastPiggy]

Honestly imo, if you've promoted at least one class you are no longer a greenbeard. I didn't feel green at that point but at the same time I at that point only played on hazard 4 and 5. So maybe it has more to do with the difficulty your able to play and not the rank/promotions. Imo.