Breach Cutter, Roll Control

[Iluszachane]

Let's have a nice happy Breach Cutter thread. Curious about builds, strategies, etc.

Looking for thoughts about Roll Control, if you have an opinion. I miss the old Roll Control

[babuk.fracal]

Weirdly enough, the current roll control is pretty nice.

You can stun so many enemies with it while still having damage.

Imagine my surprise when I learned that even in modded its pretty nice.

Though It also gives even less reason to use pgl now, since one of the main argument for pgl is that it doesn't struggle with terrain.

[cammy]

Stronger Plasma Current is my fave. It allows you take Magazine Size over Lifetime in tier 1 and makes every tier 2 mod more attractive.

[Chibbity]

I would never touch the BC with anything but Spinning Death, so idk what to say about Roll Control; it exists?

[kestrel]

roll control is phenomenal, it turns the BC's hitbox from a line into a circle as large as the projectile's width which synergizes with T2C/T5C. and you get to steer it. and you get a lifetime boost on top

[Frisky]

I use the breach cutter so little I actually forgot roll control got changed to be more than just a funny spinning overclock

[Iluszachane]

Originally posted by Chibbity:

I would never touch the BC with anything but Spinning Death, so idk what to say about Roll Control; it exists?

What you got against BC?

[Chibbity]

Originally posted by Iluszachane:

Originally posted by Chibbity:

I would never touch the BC with anything but Spinning Death, so idk what to say about Roll Control; it exists?

What you got against BC?

It's a lame energy based weapon.

[Iluszachane]

Originally posted by Chibbity:

Originally posted by Iluszachane:

What you got against BC?

It's a lame energy based weapon.

Gotcha lol, okay.

Every single weapon in the game is based on energy of some kind.

Thermal, kinetic, you name it.

PGL rounds are loaded with potential energy that is unleashed in an explosion on impact, which itself is achieved by transferring kinetic energy to the rounds and propelling them out of the barrel.

[Chibbity]

Originally posted by Iluszachane:

Gotcha lol, okay.

Every single weapon in the game is based on energy of some kind.

Thermal, kinetic, you name it.

PGL rounds are loaded with potential energy that is unleashed in an explosion on impact, which itself is achieved by transferring kinetic energy to the rounds and propelling them out of the barrel.

Kinetic energy is the only cool kind of energy. Also fire, fire is pretty metal.

Shooting balls of glowing light is for knife eared leaf lovers.

Real Dwarves need real bullets!

[Iluszachane]

Originally posted by Chibbity:

Kinetic energy is the only cool kind of energy.

Shooting balls of glowing light is for knife eared leaf lovers.

Real Dwarves need real bullets!

I refuse to hear this slander...

Here, in MY breach cutter thread?

MY THREAD?!

[Shirojacky]

I use Inferno on my Breach Cutter so I don't know how to make a good build for Roll Control, but it looks like a funny OC at least. Might probably want triple line or plasma trail though at least. Probably also immediate deploy?

[Zargothrax]

Originally posted by Chibbity:

Shooting balls of glowing light is for knife eared leaf lovers.

Okay, but hear me out; lasers. Not like the dinky little star wars-esque peashooter ones, I'm talking beams of pure, uninterrupted destruction. Concentrated and powerful enough to split steel like it was paper.

Granted, the breach cutter is a bit unorthodox when it comes to lasers, but the shard diffractor's got the right idea for sure.

[Iluszachane]

Originally posted by Cat Boomer Stella:

I use Inferno on my Breach Cutter so I don't know how to make a good build for Roll Control, but it looks like a funny OC at least. Might probably want triple line or plasma trail though at least. Probably also immediate deploy?

Immediate Deploy feels like a must-have, I don't think I've ever left it behind tbh.

[Chibbity]

Originally posted by Zargothrax:

Originally posted by Chibbity:

Shooting balls of glowing light is for knife eared leaf lovers.

Okay, but hear me out; lasers. Not like the dinky little star wars-esque peashooter ones, I'm talking beams of pure, uninterrupted destruction. Concentrated and powerful enough to split steel like it was paper.

Granted, the breach cutter is a bit unorthodox when it comes to lasers, but the shard diffractor's got the right idea for sure.

Lasers are a step up from plasma, but a step down from bullets.

[Nightwolf]

i love it, had it on my general engi build forever. there are times the others do better but as a be all end all weapon nothing is better than the breach. you can empty clips for raw dps, it has the range to pick things off from afar, and you can zero harder enemies through solid rock.

i dont use roll, yaw or anything else but the one oc i do use on it. which ill have to look at and edit this later lol. you can use the other oc's and they do work well but i find they specialize the weapon too much. they take a weapon of just raw power and choke it to a thing to just strip armor or kill specialized enemies. theres nothing wrong with that but if you are going to specialize in killing just one enemy the other weapons give a better loadout to do it.

engies are about heavy firepower. after 13,000 missions with randoms the breach just does so much 95% of the time its just the best choice. when the team gets overwhelmed, the lasers zero a entire wave in just 1-3 shots if you pack them up. when i need to tear down a det the dps of a full belt of ammo can tear down almost anything in game. i can widen the lasers enough to catch large numbers of mactera in one pass if i funnel them with a little bit of work.

now i will admit my skill level amplifies the breach's overall effectiveness so taking my setup and putting it in the hands of a noob will wildly undercut the results.

when you talk about a given setup for the breach you have to recognize the lower your skill bar is the more heavily you are going to rely on the weapons raw stats to carry you.

its an ugly truth but there it is.

so my shining review means less to people who are not trying to be better and should be taken as such.