Why do so many dwarves NOT mine?

[PurpleBatDragon]

We always need to be understanding towards greenbeards, and I don't want to tell people how to enjoy a game, but why do so few dwarves mine anything anymore? It's a phenomena I've seen across all levels and hazards. No gold is understandable, but no Nitra, crafting minerals, or even objectives? It's honestly baffling.

I can live with joining or hosting a Gold Rush+Mineral Mania mission where people mine neither, that's not the end of the world. But when players are outright REFUSING to mine Morkite/Aquarqs/Eggs/secondaries, I kinda lose it.

I kid you not, I've had DOZENS of lobbies now where these people accidentally pick up some of the things we've mined and then refuse to deposit. They're holding that last bit of Morkite on a badly generated Haz 5 cave, and they'll just stare at you, ignoring our pleas over text & voice chat. We literally have to kick them and take their pack to finish the mission.

Last night my group of randoms was about to finish an Elite Deep Dive, we just needed more ammo to finish whatever the last objective was because all of us had almost completely ran dry. We scoured the cave for more Nitra until we found the very last vein. One of us mined it until he was full, and another accidentally picked up what was left. We needed just 10 more Nitra for a supply drop, but when we asked the second guy (who hadn't mined anything the whole dive) to deposit, he simply wrote "no" in the chat and started the objective.
We all died.
He was over level 300.

There's my rant, lol. Never thought this game would ever be capable of angering me. IDK if having a zero on the mining stat in the after mission screen is just funny to some people, but please stop. I can't take anymore.

[Jack left town]

Play driller and blow everything up
Especially scouts, lazy bastids won't mine nitra after you pinged it for them

[Chibbity]

Can't say I've experienced anyone not mining, besides Gold sometimes.

[Smetrix]

Not something I’ve seen, not at least the “holding minerals and refusing to deposit” part lol.

[Jack left town]

Originally posted by Smetrix:

Not something I’ve seen, not at least the “holding minerals and refusing to deposit” part lol.

Through absent mindedness or le ebin trolling it does happen. Most people are just ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ blind. Yes I know nitra is the same color as the walls in some biomes, no excuses.

[Chibbity]

Originally posted by Smetrix:

Not something I’ve seen, not at least the “holding minerals and refusing to deposit” part lol.

Even then, you could just kick them and deposit their stuff once they drop it.

[kestrel]

People are stupid and have one track minds and are incapable of performing objectives if they were wrapped in Christmas lights. Too many people forget that DRG is an objective based game, you're not just shooting bugs.
Just either do the work yourself, or kick the dead weight and hope the next player to join has their brain turned on.

[Sir T]

I've run across that a few times. It makes no sense to me as if I see minerals I'm all over them like *insert offensive comparison here*.

But Its especially infuriating when *recent example* I realize I'm the only person doing Aquarqs in a Point Extraction, and the rest of the guys are just wandering around shooting things or taking in the scenery till constant attacks start and we get overrun. Sad thing is I was a gunner, probably the least capable of going after those high placed gems :(

(Ok, yes, I was stupid and forgot about my Ziplines.)

I've also had myself filling both Fuel Canisters on an escort mission because the other guys just stare at them.

[MrPurple33]

Originally posted by kestrel:

Too many people forget that DRG is an objective based game, you're not just shooting bugs.

I So Agree with this Statement

Back when I first came across DRG and was Looking at the Intro Videos
and Still Pics, and as a Fan of WH40K, I Initially thought
"Oh, this is a Space Dwarf Version of Space Hulk, but on a Planet, not a Ship" -
I quickly realized DRG is actually a 'Space Dwarf Mining Simulation Game' and it's about the Objectives and getting back to the Drop Pod Alive- There are Many Dangers to be overcome, the Planet Hoxxes Itself and the Terrain being the Largest Danger- The Glyphids, Mactera, and the Rest of the Enemies are simply a Part of the Dangerous Planet, A Big Part, but just a Part- That's what the Guns are for, and they are Fun as All Hell, but it's always about Completing the Mission First, and making sure We 'Leave No Dwarf Behind' -
DRG is a MUCH Better Game than just a 'Shooter', as it's often Mis-Labeled on Steam






As for Players that Don't or Never Mine?

Those aren't Dwarves- Those are nothing more than Bearded Gnomes

[Dragon]

i think the most aggravating to me is an engi who wont place platforms -

you generally have 20-30 platforms you are never going to use for anything. please.

im pinging things so you put a platform under them.

it doesnt even need to be perfectly placed - just please. i need to be able to stand on the 60 degree inverted wall. im begging you. dont make the driller do it. the driller doesnt like me. he blows me up.

[Siphonophorous Shenaniganry]

Originally posted by Dragon:

i think the most aggravating to me is an engi who wont place platforms -

you generally have 20-30 platforms you are never going to use for anything. please.

im pinging things so you put a platform under them.

it doesnt even need to be perfectly placed - just please. i need to be able to stand on the 60 degree inverted wall. im begging you. dont make the driller do it. the driller doesnt like me. he blows me up.

Those things are precious though. What am I gonna build a pancake tower from if I waste them all on Scouts?

[Masuo15]

Across all hazards is weird, Im new to the game and just now Im picking up on what Im suppouse to mine aside of the "worthless, but fun to break" (seriously, this single handed voice line is PERFECT to teach new players what adds close to nothing to the team).

Tho I will admit some 2nd objectives are some what strange, like the seeds for example, despite playing multiple missions, I had to be lvl20 to realize those drop from cocons on the ceiling and I was overlooking those. Then the fact some objectives and 2nds are behind colored dots on the mine surfaces.

Maybe is a case of some players getting carried too much and are yet to learn by themselfs how usefull is to mine some stuff. I will say that playing Engineer does give you the freedom to see what others do as you try to find where and when a platform can benefit the team.

-Edit: Cause Gunner might be looking for something to kill as the inisial zip line is bad, Scout is flying all over the map, and digger might be digging. Everyone adds to the team but some roles give a bit more freedom to evaluate the situattion, than others. Even Engineer might be spending a bit too much time looking at walls and moving the sentry.

[PurpleBatDragon]

Originally posted by Dragon:

i think the most aggravating to me is an engi who wont place platforms -

you generally have 20-30 platforms you are never going to use for anything. please.

im pinging things so you put a platform under them.

it doesnt even need to be perfectly placed - just please. i need to be able to stand on the 60 degree inverted wall. im begging you. dont make the driller do it. the driller doesnt like me. he blows me up.

But I need those to solo farm Nitra/Booloo Caps/Apoca Blooms/Fossils in the spawn room, while the Scout starts every machine event, the Driller digs objectives into a 50ft hole, and the Gunner makes an incomprehensible zipline web to avoid fights.

But seriously, high level players giving your pings a hard stare then ignoring them is painful. I also legitimately appreciate Scouts pinging things they naturally see before me.

[ReaperLord]

I haven't seen that many players refuse to mine anything in a while, and I have played a lot. Most players will mine at least 100 or so minerals, at least that's what the scoreboard says.

It's more likely to encounter players that refuse to do machine events rather than refusing to mine.

[Arkveld]

ive had plenty of players that just rush into the cave refuse to mine anything and only shoot bugs. when they inevitably go down they rage quit instantly even when im right next to them.

[DOOM_Dwarf]

Ive seen it. Somewhat frequent fenomenon. Extremely annoying.

Whenever I see someone walk past minerals without mining them, I want to punch them in the face for leaving the "less fun" part for the rest of us. Very selfish behavior.