Deep Rock Galactic
Stan 26 jun. 2023 às 19:28
Is macro bannable?
I got tired of breaking my keyboard spamming A + D, and decided to create a macro, but since I never used a macro on steam I would like to know if it goes against steam or Ghost ship TOS to use a macro for commands such as these, this is my Main account with all my games and years of steam so I really don't want to lose it of course.
Thanks for everyone who responded, seemed like a straight foward question but I appear to have sparked a few conflicts in the comments :steamsad:
Última alteração por Stan; 27 jun. 2023 às 1:22
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Dorff  [developer] 27 jun. 2023 às 0:19 
Originalmente postado por CressAlt:
There's no anti cheat in this game, they don't give a crap how you play a singleplayer/coop game.

This. We don't care.
do what you want, king
Waldherz 27 jun. 2023 às 1:01 
Originalmente postado por babuk.fracal:
Originalmente postado por Waldherz彡:
And how exactly do you know that ^^

You cant tell a macro user from a normal user unless they overuse the macro.
Cheaters arn't very subtle in video games
In that case if I see someone instakilling a boss or an enemy with high health
It would be pretty easy to know that something is up

(also why the hell do you have "promote a dwarf once" and "promote 1 dwarf to silver/gold" at the exact same date)
I talked about macros. Not cheats.
Macros are just key presses recorded and played back.
babuk.fracal 27 jun. 2023 às 1:05 
Originalmente postado por Waldherz彡:
Originalmente postado por babuk.fracal:
Cheaters arn't very subtle in video games
In that case if I see someone instakilling a boss or an enemy with high health
It would be pretty easy to know that something is up

(also why the hell do you have "promote a dwarf once" and "promote 1 dwarf to silver/gold" at the exact same date)
I talked about macros. Not cheats.
Macros are just key presses recorded and played back.
Then why do you ask me how I would know that ?
Why would I care if someone use a macro in a way that isn't cheating
Última alteração por babuk.fracal; 27 jun. 2023 às 1:05
VforVeranda 27 jun. 2023 às 3:24 
Originalmente postado por babuk.fracal:
Originalmente postado por Waldherz彡:
I talked about macros. Not cheats.
Macros are just key presses recorded and played back.
Then why do you ask me how I would know that ?
Why would I care if someone use a macro in a way that isn't cheating

I use a macro on my mouse to assign a specific button on my mouse to the laser pointer. In this case, the macro is: "If mouse button 7 is pressed, transmit "keypad 5" (as mouse 7 isn't registered by game). Mouse 9 is "Shout" (Kpad 9).

Please. Tell me how I am a dirty cheater.
Última alteração por VforVeranda; 27 jun. 2023 às 3:26
babuk.fracal 27 jun. 2023 às 3:30 
Originalmente postado por VforVeranda:
Originalmente postado por babuk.fracal:
Then why do you ask me how I would know that ?
Why would I care if someone use a macro in a way that isn't cheating

I use a macro on my mouse to assign a specific button on my mouse to the laser pointer. In this case, the macro is: "If mouse button 7 is pressed, transmit "keypad 5" (as mouse 7 isn't registered by game). Mouse 9 is "Shout" (Kpad 9).

Please. Tell me how I am a dirty cheater.
"why would I care if someone use a macro in a way that isn't cheating"
its that hard to read ?
AyyDimitri 27 jun. 2023 às 3:47 
The only thing I know is sus is being able to circumvent the kersite event or shoot faster with the minigun.

On the topic of it being malpractice.
Meh, if dev have something tedious that must be mashed to get through, such as cookie clicker segments, then its deserved.
But a bit of a mechanical struggle is nice every now and then to keep a player on point, e.g try getting a macro to do a variable hacking challenge for example...

If its an extension of ability, say placing objects faster in an RTS game like starcraft2, its up to devs or competitive tournament rules by the host.
Waldherz 27 jun. 2023 às 3:54 
Originalmente postado por babuk.fracal:
Originalmente postado por Waldherz彡:
I talked about macros. Not cheats.
Macros are just key presses recorded and played back.
Then why do you ask me how I would know that ?
Why would I care if someone use a macro in a way that isn't cheating
"I havn't met someone that use a macro to cheat in drg yet"
Then how do you know that you have not met anyone xD
babuk.fracal 27 jun. 2023 às 3:55 
Originalmente postado por Waldherz彡:
Originalmente postado por babuk.fracal:
Then why do you ask me how I would know that ?
Why would I care if someone use a macro in a way that isn't cheating
"I havn't met someone that use a macro to cheat in drg yet"
Then how do you know that you have not met anyone xD
because the minigun thing is well known
what is this ? the "you dont cook so you cant tell that the food is bad" logic ?

like lol https://youtu.be/itjAvOXqgrw
Última alteração por babuk.fracal; 27 jun. 2023 às 3:58
DOOM_Dwarf 27 jun. 2023 às 3:57 
All is fair game in my book, as long as you dont negatively impact other players.
Waldherz 27 jun. 2023 às 4:12 
Originalmente postado por babuk.fracal:
Originalmente postado por Waldherz彡:
"I havn't met someone that use a macro to cheat in drg yet"
Then how do you know that you have not met anyone xD
because the minigun thing is well known
what is this ? the "you dont cook so you cant tell that the food is bad" logic ?

like lol https://youtu.be/itjAvOXqgrw
Thats not comparable....
Whatever dude.
babuk.fracal 27 jun. 2023 às 4:16 
Originalmente postado por Waldherz彡:
Originalmente postado por babuk.fracal:
because the minigun thing is well known
what is this ? the "you dont cook so you cant tell that the food is bad" logic ?

like lol https://youtu.be/itjAvOXqgrw
Thats not comparable....
Whatever dude.
"you never met some one using a macro in a cheating way so you can't know what it is"
does the comparaison work for you now
Chibbity 27 jun. 2023 às 4:20 
Originalmente postado por Smetrix:
Originalmente postado por Cursed Hawkins:
You do realize that the vast majority of Minecraft speedruns make use of a Macro, and speedruns by definition ARE COMPETITIVE by nature.
You do realize that "competetive games" tend to be ones like TF2 and CSGO, right? Why would we care or be talking about the speedrunning scene of Minecraft?

This^

When I said competitive, I meant PvP specifically.
Нагризолич 27 jun. 2023 às 5:57 
I mean, trainers and pretty ridiculous mods are acceptable. At least I've never heard anyone being banned for them.
Also I don't think VAC will ban you for keyboard input. I've had AHK running for almost a decade now for non-game related tasks (and sometimes game-related too).
AyyDimitri 27 jun. 2023 às 6:00 
To be fair...
When it comes to the marco exploit on the minigun...
I would just call it an unintentional "fuller auto"...
Not to say its a problem, but if if I could toggle minigun firing speed between conserve ammo / dps with little move hindrance, or bullet maelstrom lead storm move speed removal, I would be the happiest of good doggos to use that as a clean overclock.
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