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def.

Jul 6, 2023 @ 2:43pm

Is it me or Drak-25 sucks?

Without overclocks i mean. Which i have none of for this particular gun, and it seems to be lacking in its base form.
Pretty much all its got going for it is bbrrrrrrrt firerate, but i feel like im wasting ammo more than killing anything honestly. The plasma splash upgrade doesn't help that much either.

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Originally posted by SCamp:

Base Drak is fine. Total damage output is roughly the same without weakpoints. More likely you aren't used to projectiles at medium-far ranges. Base GK2 with weakpoint wins out if you're perfect with it, also has better medium-long range capability with right build. Otherwise, AoE Drak does more damage to groups, is better against swarmers and has more DPS. So they are roughly even.

I generally don't consider Electric Drak or AB Drak worth considering unless you have a method to freeze enemies to maximize direct damage. AoE on Drak does mitigate some of the base spread, transforming near-misses at range (when firing at an enemy on a ceiling or a wall) into at least some some damage.

Most of the power comes from the balanced and unstable OCs altering how the Drak plays (GK2 OCs aren't as transformative) :

Clean
- TLC - Just pure QoL if you can't do basic heat management.
- Aggressive Venting - Aggressive/Defensive option similar to Minigun's AV mod. Shares similar builds with Rewiring.

Balanced
- Bouncy - Lots of AoE/single target/occular damage via bounce mechanic at the cost of small RoF malus.
- Rewiring - Heat management? LOL. 1800 ammo for magdump spamming speedy boi build.

Unstable
- OPA - Lots of damage with no mechanics but loss of accuracy and minor cooling malus.
- TEF - Lots of fire damage, but must manage heat to optimize.
- SBB - Overall stat boosts with minor cooling rate malus, but shields must be kept full. But enables semi-tanky scout builds due to shorter shield regeneration delay that doesn't require the weapon to be out (stackable with suit's regen delay reduction, make sure to take HP mod on suit to make shields smaller so you can get to full faster).

TLDR: Think of Drak as a SMG. Think of the GK2 as an AR.

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Vritra

Jul 6, 2023 @ 2:48pm

i believe it is meant to be used in conjunction with scouts mobility, a few shots then grapple away and the heat goes down while grappling. like most 3rd unlocks it promotes an alternate way of playing

def.

Jul 6, 2023 @ 2:56pm

Originally posted by Vritra:
i believe it is meant to be used in conjunction with scouts mobility, a few shots then grapple away and the heat goes down while grappling. like most 3rd unlocks it promotes an alternate way of playing

You can do that with his standard rifle though?And do more damage. And dont have to wait for heat to go down.

Aimee

Jul 6, 2023 @ 3:02pm

Drak plasma carbine has the same issues every scout weapon has. You need to select very specific modifications for it to be good.
Without overclocks you need the electrifying mod (Overcharged PCF) for it to be any good.
And let the damage tick away when you electrocute something.

Plasma splash is a modification thats specificaly for Impact Deflection OC and is pointless otherwise. Armor break is completely pointless.

Ittrix

Jul 6, 2023 @ 3:03pm

I think it's not that the drak sucks w/out OCs as much as it is the M1000 is just really good without OCs.

as far as 'scout weapons without OCs' go.

Last edited by Ittrix; Jul 6, 2023 @ 3:03pm

Citizen of Zozo has Deep Rock Galactic

Jul 6, 2023 @ 3:03pm

With no OC's? It's good at killing trash. Grunts and the like. Plus it has practically double the ammo of the Deepcore. It trades single target DPS for staying power.
It does *have* set ups where it does decent damage... but I think it's naturally geared towards clearing trash mobs. You're the Scout. You have the luxury of picking your battles, so just avoid big enemies unless your secondary is meant for them.

Everything is a sidegrade in this game (or at least it's meant to be). Drak has problems with sniping targets because its projectiles travel slower than bullets but it also has the advantage of never having the reload as long as you manage the heat.

Last edited by Citizen of Zozo; Jul 6, 2023 @ 3:04pm

def.

Jul 6, 2023 @ 3:10pm

Originally posted by Citizen of Zozo:
With no OC's? It's good at killing trash. Grunts and the like. Plus it has practically double the ammo of the Deepcore. It trades single target DPS for staying power.
It does *have* set ups where it does decent damage... but I think it's naturally geared towards clearing trash mobs. You're the Scout. You have the luxury of picking your battles, so just avoid big enemies unless your secondary is meant for them.

Everything is a sidegrade in this game (or at least it's meant to be). Drak has problems with sniping targets because its projectiles travel slower than bullets but it also has the advantage of never having the reload as long as you manage the heat.

I dont see much use for having double the ammo of deepcore if it takes a lot more clumsy, slow (even with that velocity upgrade) , non hitscan projectiles to kill a grunt than just picking a no OC deepcore with hollowpoint bullets and doing it faster.

Last edited by def.; Jul 6, 2023 @ 3:11pm

Plumber

Jul 6, 2023 @ 4:09pm

out of the three primaries for Scout, only m1000 felt strong out of the gate for me. Both the GK2 and Drak only start showing their strengths when you have unlocked not just their OCs, but also most of the secondaries' OCs, since the stricter or more tradeoff-heavy OCs are best with their weaknesses accounted for.

Strandly

Jul 6, 2023 @ 4:33pm

The spec I play the most on scout is with various lightning perks-- drak-25 with pcf, boltshark with lightning arrows and magnetic shafts, and the boomerang. I'd be surprised if it's the best but it's fun to play.

Dragon

Jul 6, 2023 @ 4:35pm

Maybe its just cause I only run SBB but I've been running it since the season 4 buff and genuinely think its overtaken AISE deepcore as my favorite OC/Primary.

The thing is, unless you're trying to deepthink out a haz5 build, anything in haz 3/4 is pretty much viable.

Chibbity

Jul 6, 2023 @ 4:36pm

Drak has the highest total damage dealt out of Scout's primaries, but in exchange it's a bit awkward to use.

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def.

Jul 6, 2023 @ 4:43pm

Originally posted by Chibbity:
Drak has the highest total damage dealt out of Scout's primaries, but in exchange it's a bit awkward to use.

it is? sometimes i feel like shooting a praetorian in the head is barely a difference to using the weakspot because of draks damage

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76561199455560242 Jul 6, 2023 @ 4:47pm

All scout primaries are trash-tier without OCs. With OCs, Drak is arguably his best primary.

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Strandly

Jul 6, 2023 @ 4:47pm

It's pretty awkward if you don't use the particle accelerator perk, imo.

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Chibbity

Jul 6, 2023 @ 4:49pm

Originally posted by def.:
it is? sometimes i feel like shooting a praetorian in the head is barely a difference to using the weakspot because of draks damage

It doesn't really prioritize weak point bonus like other Scout primaries.

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