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Gnoll Jan 13, 2023 @ 10:15am
This game needs Official Hazard 6 (EDIT: It probably just needs OC nerfs)
This game needs an *official* Hazard 6 difficulty badly. Most OC'd builds can solo Haz 5 with no Bosco and 4 decked players is just pure overkill even for "Haz 5.5" Elite Dive.

I know there are mods, but this would make it easier to find players to engage in high-tier content with (along with Haz 6 achievements to extend longevity).

HUGE P.S. I am not bringing this up just to swing my EPEEN around like a bloody idiot or because I am some kind of masochist. It is because core tactical gameplay has really been turned on its head in current balance patch. Haz 5 has become more of a silly competition to see who can score more kills at the moment, especially when it's all just exo wavecookers rolling about. Team-play is not really necessary as long as you can avoid disables.
Last edited by Gnoll; Jan 13, 2023 @ 11:24pm
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Originally posted by DwarvenDarwinDrawingDucks:
People that says "hardly anyone plays haz 5" are greenbeards that don't know what the heck they're talking about.

I only play the game on haz 5 and the game always have a fat pool of players. I never have to wait long for players to fill in a game. And besides why are players against haz 6 when it won't even affect their preferred difficulty of the game? Players that play haz 5 will play on haz 5 and players that plays on has 4 and below will continue to do so. Haz 6 will just be catered to skilled players wanting a challenge or long time players that gotten everything but still enjoys the game as is and just wants things a tad harder. I can only see this as a win situation for all player base.

In my mind Haz 6 will just be the same as haz 5 with more vip killer creatures (spitters, flies, spitball, etc.) per wave with more mobs and with higher objectives points count before exit pod can be called. Ofc, nitra would be topped a bit too, but the idea is more deadly creatures to wipe the players with weapon balance untouched. Players fearing that their builds won't be viable in lower haz won't have to worry and players wanting the game to be more difficult will have their cake too.
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Frisky Jan 13, 2023 @ 10:19am 
Gameplay - Hazard Level
Hazard 6 - No plans
Dev Stream 09.09.2021

Gameplay - Hazard Level
Hazard 6 - Not planned, modders can probably do a better job
Dev Stream 10.06.2021

haz 5 is already so unplayed by most of the playerbase as is
Last edited by Frisky; Jan 13, 2023 @ 10:19am
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Gnoll Jan 13, 2023 @ 10:24am 
Originally posted by 🍩Mimind🍩:
oh boy here we go again
It's not like that lol, it's just that some OCs are really trashing Haz 5 so either nerf or new tier is in order, but more likely a rework of some OCs from the looks of it
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Chibbity Jan 13, 2023 @ 10:26am 
Considering the most played difficulty is Haz 3, and Haz 5 is barely played; I wouldn't say it's really "needed."

As Frisky points out above, the dev's have said on numerous occasions that they have no plans for an official Haz 6.
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Vandal Savant Jan 13, 2023 @ 10:29am 
I really don't want drg to climb the same "No wait, THIS is where the REAL challenge is!!" hill that Payday 2's stupid Mayhem->Death Wish->Death Sentence creep did.
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Gnoll Jan 13, 2023 @ 10:31am 
Originally posted by Vandal Savant:
I really don't want drg to climb the same "No wait, THIS is where the REAL challenge is!!" hill that Payday 2's stupid Mayhem->Death Wish->Death Sentence creep did.
I think I should just make a new thread picking apart why some OCs are just gamebreaking and suck tactics out of the gameplay instead of framing this as needing a new diff.
Last edited by Gnoll; Jan 13, 2023 @ 10:32am
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Diakoptes Jan 13, 2023 @ 10:35am 
Originally posted by ,./:
Originally posted by 🍩Mimind🍩:
oh boy here we go again
It's not like that lol, it's just that some OCs are really trashing Haz 5 so either nerf or new tier is in order, but more likely a rework of some OCs from the looks of it
nope
and no nerf
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Gnoll Jan 13, 2023 @ 10:36am 
Originally posted by Diakoptes:
Originally posted by ,./:
It's not like that lol, it's just that some OCs are really trashing Haz 5 so either nerf or new tier is in order, but more likely a rework of some OCs from the looks of it
nope
and no nerf
man fml i guess everything is a pipedream and reality is disillusionment
Last edited by Gnoll; Jan 13, 2023 @ 10:37am
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Jun Gling Jan 13, 2023 @ 10:43am 
Wait, exo wavecooker? I thought it was not really good, smh. But again, i don't play haz 5.
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Qua2ar Jan 13, 2023 @ 10:54am 
We need Haz 10:steamthumbsup:
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Chibbity Jan 13, 2023 @ 10:59am 
Originally posted by ,./:
I think I should just make a new thread picking apart why some OCs are just gamebreaking and suck tactics out of the gameplay instead of framing this as needing a new diff.

This is gonna shock you but, have you considered not using "OP" builds if they are ruining your fun?
Last edited by Chibbity; Jan 13, 2023 @ 11:00am
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SirCampalot Jan 13, 2023 @ 12:03pm 
Originally posted by ,./:
This game needs an *official* Hazard 6 difficulty badly.
I vote in favor of official haz6 :).
Haz5 is basically my standard haz level by now and I could use a better challenge.
I'd definitely go haz6 if I ever felt like tryharding. Haz5 isn't anymore most of the time.
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SirCampalot Jan 13, 2023 @ 12:04pm 
And regarding haz5 not being popualr enough, usually haz5 is full up quick enough most of the time, so I'm not worried about not enough people actually wanting haz6.
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Cress Jan 13, 2023 @ 12:12pm 
I agree with H6 being a thing, or at least shifting the goalposts a bit and making everything just harder (H3 players might have to move to H2 or something to compensate). I get that not many people play the game for a difficulty factor, but this will also keep a lot of more "hardcore" gamers away since H5 is basically "medium difficulty" compared to other games of the genre.

Mods exist but aren't that great, or at least I didn't think they were when I played them a year or so ago. There needs to be a more organic increase in difficulty, not just bumping numbers.
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Ittrix Jan 13, 2023 @ 12:35pm 
It's a casual game. Hardly anyone plays haz 5 in the first place.
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FecklessJoota Jan 13, 2023 @ 12:45pm 
Originally posted by Ittrix:
It's a casual game. Hardly anyone plays haz 5 in the first place.
True, the reason it feels as if many play it is because most of them are active on forums or as streamers.

However, if adding haz6 does not affect me (who will stick to haz 4 or 3), I see no reason to oppose it
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