Playing offline. Why do already installed mods get disabled?

[livinghell]

Once upon a time devs promised us, that DRG is playable offline and has no DRM with always online function.
Today I went offline and noticed that all my installed mods get disabled without any option to enable them if I am not always online connected to mod.io.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2899200679

Is it a bug? Ist it a feature? Did I miss some info about mod.io?
Why having no internet forbids to use locally installed mod files?
I mean: game could detect if it works in "true" offline mode and unlock access to mods?

A reintroduction of always-online DRM through backdoor?

[Derpykat5]

Not being able to use mods offline is hardly equivalent to an always-online DRM.

[livinghell]

Originally posted by Derpykat5:

Not being able to use mods offline is hardly equivalent to an always-online DRM.

But you also have no explanation why it SHOULD be like that?
Remember the times when mods simply worked?

[Chibbity]

Originally posted by livinghell:

Remember the times when mods simply worked?

Remember the times where anyone could cheat in any lobby easily with mods?

Yeah, they were the same times lol.

You not being able to mod offline is a small price to pay, and a sacrifice that I am willing to make lol.

[livinghell]

Originally posted by Chibbity:

Originally posted by livinghell:

Remember the times when mods simply worked?

Remember the times where anyone could cheat in any lobby easily with mods?

Yeah, they were the same times lol.

You not being able to mod offline is a small price to pay, and a sacrifice that I am willing to make lol.

I can cheat now with cheats in any lobby. How you stop me?
We talk about complex mods and not cheats: Doom mod, molly cosmetices, etc.
Please, don't hijack the thread for offtopic comments.

[Chibbity]

Originally posted by livinghell:

I can cheat now with cheats in any lobby. How you stop me?
We talk about complex mods and not cheats: Doom mod, molly cosmetices, etc.
Please, don't hijack the thread for offtopic comments.

Vanilla players don't want to play with modded players, simple as.

Why do you want to force your playstyle on others?

Shouldn't they be allowed to play how they want?

[livinghell]

Originally posted by Chibbity:

Originally posted by livinghell:

I can cheat now with cheats in any lobby. How you stop me?
We talk about complex mods and not cheats: Doom mod, molly cosmetices, etc.
Please, don't hijack the thread for offtopic comments.

Vanilla players don't want to play with modded players, simple as.

Why do you want to force your playstyle on others?

Please, don't hijack the thread for offtopic comments.
Please, don't hijack the thread for offtopic comments.
Please, don't hijack the thread for offtopic comments.

We talk about playing offline with internet turned off.
We talk about complex mods and not cheats: Doom mod, molly cosmetices, etc.

You can not cheat "doom mod" even offline.

[Chibbity]

Originally posted by livinghell:

Please, don't hijack the thread for offtopic comments.
Please, don't hijack the thread for offtopic comments.
Please, don't hijack the thread for offtopic comments.

We talk about playing offline with internet turned off.
We talk about complex mods and not cheats: Doom mod, molly cosmetices, etc.

You can not cheat "doom mod" even offline.

It's not offtopic?

Mod.io is what allows different players to be separated into categories.

Thus it is required for modding, and since it's an online service; you need to be online to connect to it.

[Vulkan]

Originally posted by livinghell:

Originally posted by Chibbity:

Vanilla players don't want to play with modded players, simple as.

Why do you want to force your playstyle on others?

Please, don't hijack the thread for offtopic comments.
Please, don't hijack the thread for offtopic comments.
Please, don't hijack the thread for offtopic comments.

We talk about playing offline with internet turned off.
We talk about complex mods and not cheats: Doom mod, molly cosmetices, etc.

You can not cheat "doom mod" even offline.

you havnt changed have you

[livinghell]

Originally posted by Chibbity:

Mod.io is what allows different players to be separated into categories.

Thus it is required for modding, and since it's an online service; you need to be online to connect to it.

You somehow are confused. I play OFFLINE.
DRG can EZ detect if it is offline: servers not available.
And just don't block mods. EZ.

[Aimee]

Mod.io does not use the same standards as the base game and developers do.
Modding offline would probably cause issues where the Mod.io is offline for a player while they are playing online. Opening up more ways for cheating and griefing.

It makes sense that Mod.io does not make a seperate ruleset for every single mod that you install from their website. And allow some to be used offline and others online, that would be a nightmare to make in working order.

Also DRG being playable offline and using mods offline is not the same thing. You are getting exactly as the developers have promised. And Third party software has their own ruleset. Hardly a surprise.

[Chibbity]

Originally posted by livinghell:

You somehow are confused. I play OFFLINE.
DRG can EZ detect if it is offline: servers not available.
And just don't block mods. EZ.

You can just deal with the fact that modding in DRG is an online service.

EZ.

[livinghell]

Originally posted by Aimee:

Mod.io does not use the same standards as the base game and developers do.
Modding offline would probably cause issues where the Mod.io is offline for a player while they are playing online. Opening up more ways for cheating and griefing.

It makes sense that Mod.io does not make a seperate ruleset for every single mod that you install from their website. And allow some to be used offline and others online, that would be a nightmare to make in working order.

Also DRG being playable offline and using mods offline is not the same thing. You are getting exactly as the developers have promised. And Third party software has their own ruleset. Hardly a surprise.

No, you see it in a wrong way, see:
LVL 1 = DRG game
LVL 2 = MOD io

DRG asks MOD IO about state of the mods and gets anwers. An then DRG decides what to do with answers.

when online:
Steamservsers =yes & MOD IO = yes means DRG = yes means Mods work

Exception should be: if DRG can not see steam servers, it ignores and unlocks
Steamservers = no & MOD IO = no means DRG = yes Mods work offline

[SoulSkull]

Well, if you want that changed so badly, you are more than welcome to contact the developers directly.

[Vault Traveler]

Technically you could if you install mods manually.

The reason is everytime you go online mod.io syncs the mod data at game start, thats also why we had that black screen issue once and thus we got the safemode option.

ALso lets not forgot DRG already has a DRM called steam.

[Fryskar]

Originally posted by Chibbity:

Originally posted by livinghell:

I can cheat now with cheats in any lobby. How you stop me?
We talk about complex mods and not cheats: Doom mod, molly cosmetices, etc.
Please, don't hijack the thread for offtopic comments.

Vanilla players don't want to play with modded players, simple as.

Why do you want to force your playstyle on others?

Shouldn't they be allowed to play how they want?

I'm fairly sure i can go full cheat in public.