Bullet Hell / Spinning Death thoughts?

[Big Lazy Fox]

I recently got these two overclocks. Other than a couple other reds, I mostly have greens and 1 or 2 yellows and red OCs seem to be really powerful in very fun ways that aren't super obvious how to best use. I am curious what other players have done with these two OCs and how to best take advantage of them.

[Chibbity]

Spinning Death is really the only reason I like Breach Cutter, pairs well with Stun for locking down groups.

Right now I'm running it ACABB.

Idk about Bullet Hell, not really my style; but it has it's fans.

[Big Lazy Fox]

I love the breach cutter's default shot but I feel spinning death really makes the weapon shine. I've only had the opportunity to use it a couple times now but I figure it makes for a great defensive OC.

[Barser]

Spinning death is both fun and good. But I gotta be honest here. It is just not that good compared to something like Light-Weight Cases imo. But then again it might be the most powerful secondary weapon + overclock in the game.

the problem with spinning death is mostly its lack of ammo.

About bullet hell, its sadly an overclock I rarely use. I dont feel it is very good.

[Big Lazy Fox]

Interesting. I ve had pretty good uses for bullet hell but that's coming from my limited experience with it. It works well with the aggressive venting build as you are spreading a lot of damage around a swarm of enemies, often finished by the fire AoE when overheating. I've also used the fire bullets unstable OC but I found it too heavy in heat management to make it really useful.

[CCShad]

Spinning Death has the highest damage per shot out of any weapon in the entire game, easily surpassing Hyper Propellant, and even Fatboy.

Unfortunately, it has very little shots. It’s range is also short, but still, I cannot stress how good this oc is enough.

Pro tip: It doubles as a more offensive gunner shield. Just shoot, then stand inside the shot and any melee bugs trying to attack you will die. Meanwhile, use your primary to take out any projectile enemies targeting you. The Born Ready perk pairs with this weapon very nicely.

[Savior8801 (P-L)]

I never understood bullet hell personally; why turn a great single target weapon into a third-rate horde clearer, when the Thunderhead and the Hurricane exist and compete for the same slot, not to mention the explosive toxins Bulldog and Hellfire coilgun.

The reason I never gave Spinning Death much of a try is that it used to be brutal on some players' hardware, and my primary coop partner has some issues with his. Didn't want to risk setting his PC on fire. Don't know if it still does, but I was never that into the BC in the first place either. I was PGL all the way until the Diffractor showed up.

[Big Lazy Fox]

Huh, I have that issue with the sludge gun. For some reason it makes my screen flicker black when someone is firing it. As for Bullet hell, it is the only red OC I have for the minigun, and it's worked well enough so far.

[Chibbity]

Originally posted by Big Lazy Fox:

Huh, I have that issue with the sludge gun. For some reason it makes my screen flicker black when someone is firing it. As for Bullet hell, it is the only red OC I have for the minigun, and it's worked well enough so far.

Just to clarify, in case there is any confusion, reds are not inherently better than greens or yellows.

A little more oomph is my go to minigun OC and it's a green for example.

[Torres, The Devourer]

Bullet hell if fun but it is not good. It hurts damage way too hard.
Spinning death, while I don't think it as good as say HVT, inferno, or lightweight cases, can be very effective by stunning and killing groups of bugs, praetorians, or other big bois.

[Cress]

The "issue" with both those OCs is you are giving up too much for what you get. They are certainly usable, but not that great.

Spinning death is great for locking down a choke or stunlocking a group of enemies... but you could also just shoot 2 into any direction and anything smaller than a preat will die. It just seems really pointless to go through all the trouble of making a stationary death zone when you could just outright kill things. You cannot spam fire, the range is short, the AoE is small... it's just not that great.

Bullet hell is decent at bad angles (e.g. they are coming down the walls) or when you just can't line 'em up and blast 'em. You give up too much damage for when you actually need it for me to consider it worthwhile. As others have already mentioned, other primaries do what this OC does, but better in every possible way.

[Shadow Wizard Fluffy Gang]

Bullet Hell has some diehard fans and I can see the appeal. But it's not for me, I just like the "Leadstorm" OC better. So much more damage for no real trade off.

[Torres, The Devourer]

Originally posted by Entity Mystik:

Bullet Hell has some diehard fans and I can see the appeal. But it's not for me, I just like the "Leadstorm" OC better. So much more damage for no real trade off.

the leadstorm Oc is a direct upgrade IMO

[Big Lazy Fox]

what's leadstorm's effect?

[Chibbity]

Originally posted by Big Lazy Fox:

what's leadstorm's effect?

Basically a big plus to damage, a nerf to stun; and you can't move while shooting.

[Torres, The Devourer]

Originally posted by Chibbity:

Originally posted by Big Lazy Fox:

what's leadstorm's effect?

Basically a big plus to damage, a nerf to stun; and you can't move while shooting.

learn to b hop and you'll soon find yourself destroying bugs left and right. The stun sucks but for the massive damage boost its a good trade off. Plus all secondaries can be build for stun.
also blow through is the best option in t3 and I get annoyed for some reason when i see someone use stun or armor break over the gods gift tho dwraven kind know as blow through.
(im over exaggerating but blow through is king)