Shooting range?

[Optimus Prime]

would it be possible in the future to get one of these to test builds and over clocks? Also when am i getting a cigar for my gunner?

[Morgenthal]

IIRC, due to engine limitations, it is not feasible to make a shooting range (even tho it was planned as a feature).

Probably never, due to increased age ratings.

[Chibbity]

Originally posted by Morgenthal:

IIRC, due to engine limitations, it is not feasible to make a shooting range (even tho it was planned as a feature).

Probably never, due to increased age ratings.

To expand on this, the Space Rig is basically an entirely different game, and guns don't exist in it. Any Shooting Range would have to have a loading screen which defeats half the purpose.

I wonder though, if a Cigar was part of a DLC, could that circumvent the rating issue? TW: Warhammer does it by have it's blood and gore content as a DLC I think?

[MisterSpock]

Originally posted by Chibbity:

Originally posted by Morgenthal:

IIRC, due to engine limitations, it is not feasible to make a shooting range (even tho it was planned as a feature).

Probably never, due to increased age ratings.

To expand on this, the Space Rig is basically an entirely different game, and guns don't exist in it. Any Shooting Range would have to have a loading screen which defeats half the purpose.

I wonder though, if a Cigar was part of a DLC, could that circumvent the rating issue? TW: Warhammer does it by have it's blood and gore content as a DLC I think?

Guns did excist on the spacerig in alpha.

[Chibbity]

Originally posted by MisterSpock:

Guns did excist on the spacerig in alpha.

I assume it worked differently then, as this was the reason given by the dev's when asked.

Shooting range

-One problem is that deep in the guts of the game the Space Rig does not work like the caves at all. They'd have to send you elsewhere to "enter" the firing range.

-Another problem is complexity. Presumably, the purpose of the shooting range would be to test out mods/overclocks. But enemy numbers, health and speed all depend on things like hazard level and player count.

-The numbers you'd get with one combination of these variables wouldn't hold true for another combination, which makes testing in a shooting range unreliable as a whole.

-They'd much rather players went on a mission to test out combinations than self-isolate in a firing range.

-The way they'd approach a shooting range section wouldn't be much faster for players than simply loading up a mission and testing it live.

[Vault Traveler]

The problem is, in space rig they spawn without weapon models so they can load in faster, if they had to load every weapon plus spawning enemies plus a shooting range they had longer loading times or need to make a seperate loaded shooting range and devs said it would be like starting a mission (load shooting range everytime you swap weapons).

So they had to reworked pretty much the core game for that feature, thats why they put it on a backburner.

Its not completely off the table but very unlikely to be added in near future.

[Optimus Prime]

How is a cigar a issue for rating but drinking your self black out drunk and blowing bugs into chunks isn't also a possible solution to all those difficulty issues is to do what the division 2 did with its range multiple targets to represent each class of enemy with a button to change the hazard level.

[Chibbity]

Originally posted by Optimus Prime:

How is a cigar a issue for rating but drinking your self black out drunk and blowing bugs into chunks isn't

Because drinking is far more acceptable in this day and age than smoking anything Tobacco related. Culture has changed.

Blizzard had to remove a cigar from their game for pretty much the same reason. (Or so the rumor goes.)

[Vault Traveler]

Originally posted by Optimus Prime:

How is a cigar a issue for rating but drinking your self black out drunk and blowing bugs into chunks

I cant sa for every rating board but USK/Pegi accumulate stuff, if you have drinking it can still be 12 but if you promote smoking or drinking and violence its suddenly 16…

There is no clear concept tbh, the rating boards look at the games individually and decide it, the cogar WAS in the game but as devs openly stated their lawyer adviced them to remove it to not risk any higher rating.

So either they simply removed it precautionary and never cared to let rating boards rate it again or they had the issue and said ♥♥♥♥ the cigar and moved on from that point.

[realMatcher]

Personally, I find it difficult to test the weapons in missions, especially when I only want to briefly test a small change.
Loading times are then too long for me to only want to test something briefly. A mission or extra room with loading time that runs on a different level would be an idea. If there is no generation, it should load faster. I think the problem is more that the code has to play along because you want to change the weapon attachments and over clocks.

[Optimus Prime]

that sucks kinda want a cigar for my gunner

[Chibbity]

Originally posted by Optimus Prime:

that sucks kinda want a cigar for my gunner

I would think (and I may be wrong) that selling it as a DLC would circumvent the issue.

You'd have to be 18 to have a Credit Card in your name to buy it, thus proving your age. Or conversely, if your parents buy it for you, they are obviously OK with you consuming said content.

[Optimus Prime]

Yeah id buy a dlc for it. I don't smoke allergic to it causes my throat to close up. But with all the art of the gunner he has one, kinda doesn't look right without it.

[Misogi Kumagawa 球磨川 禊]

BUT I MIGHT SEE A CIGAR IN GAME WHICH WOULD TRIGGER MY FEEBLE MIND INTO A PREDISPOSITION TOWARDS ORAL FIXATION AHHHHHH

in all seriousness censorship is disgusting and the height of hypocrisy.

[Chibbity]

Originally posted by Misogi Kumagawa 球磨川 禊:

in all seriousness censorship is disgusting and the height of hypocrisy.

So... in your opinion would it be alright for a product aimed at children to feature sexually explicit content?

[Misogi Kumagawa 球磨川 禊]

use common sense; be your own censor. in case you haven't been paying attention, sexually explicit content *has* been aimed at children for quite awhile now, in various outlets and capacities.