Why is cross-platform multiplayer so messed up with this game?

[pRogz]

Like every release of this game has a certain way of how the multiplayer works. Like why isn't there online cross play with ALL platforms? I bought it on PC/steam thinking I'll be able to play with Playstation and Xbox players... but I had to google to find out that is not the case. Why is it so separated on a co-op gmae?

[Topzchi]

then why you didn't google it does it have cross play before buying the game? good tip is that never assume anything before buying or disappointment is inevidable.

[pRogz]

yeah your correct, but unlike a lot of other cross platform multiplayer online games this one does it very strangely. Why is the Microsoft Store version of this game compatibly with xbox but the Steam copy is not? I heard that yeah PC players could play with xbox people but didn't know the Steam copy did not.

[Nosteru]

Cross platform issue answered already alot of times. Just search for it, you can find like 4-5 threads answered in last month. And dozens more from the past.

[max954]

The problem with cross play is that it need approval from both ms and sony, both seems to be a bit stingy when it comes to basic gaming features

[Chibbity]

Originally posted by pRogz:

yeah your correct, but unlike a lot of other cross platform multiplayer online games this one does it very strangely. Why is the Microsoft Store version of this game compatibly with xbox but the Steam copy is not? I heard that yeah PC players could play with xbox people but didn't know the Steam copy did not.

Because obviously, Windows store and Xbox both use Microsft's back end, while Steam uses Steam's.

DRG is P2P, it is reliant on the back end of each platform for pretty much everything online related; and they're not compatible. (Without a middleman solution to bridge them.)

True crossplay isn't feasible currently.

[ShugoTheRipper]

How can something be messed up if it is not even supported?

Easy answer APIs from different competing companies do not talk with each other. The Devs would need to host dedicated matchmaking servers for cross platform to work. Just like with ever other game with cross platform.

By relying on the individual platforms APIs if Ghost Ship Games disappeared tomorrow the games multiplayer would work as long as the platforms existed. A much better option for an indie title IMO.

[Nosteru]

Originally posted by Chibbity:

Originally posted by pRogz:

yeah your correct, but unlike a lot of other cross platform multiplayer online games this one does it very strangely. Why is the Microsoft Store version of this game compatibly with xbox but the Steam copy is not? I heard that yeah PC players could play with xbox people but didn't know the Steam copy did not.

Because obviously, Windows store and Xbox both use Microsft's back end, while Steam uses Steam's.

DRG is P2P, it is reliant on the back end of each platform for pretty much everything online related; and they're not compatible. (Without a middleman solution to bridge them.)

True crossplay isn't feasible currently.

Also Im happy we not crossed with console gamers and their controllers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Mjz6j_CUzA

[BezaoBuilder]

Because they use a different multiplayer achitecture:
When you want to do multiplayer, you have some options:
1. Your company hosts all multiplayer games. This costs a lot and the devs can't afford it right now. Larger companies can afford it. Many larger companies do it.
2. Everyone can host their own servers, completely independent from any central authority. This means players have to worry if who is hosting the server has a real IP address or not and port forwarding stuff. It also makes something like a server browser near-impossible.
3. Like 2, but players rely on a proxy to do all the low-level networking stuff, so no one needs to worry about IP addresses or port forwarding. It also makes a server browser possible, since you can just ask the proxy what servers it is proxying. The main advantage of this is that Steam and Xbox already provide such proxies, making the cost for the devs zero, however, Valve and Microsoft have a rule saying these proxy servers can only serve players running on their platform. They are not going to give their competitors servers. Microsoft Store uses the same platform as Xbox. Some developers also host their own proxies, but Ghost Ship also can't afford these proxy servers.
3 is the choice Ghost Ship made.

[Mr.Pessimism]

its troll guys

[rainee]

Originally posted by Mr.Pessimism:

its troll guys

Are we calling everything a troll now?

[Paintbrush]

1. Stop blaming others for not doing your due diligence
2. There are no dedicated servers which are required for cross platform multiplayer

[GIRL]

And thank god, too. I don't want crossplay and I'm glad the devs aren't caving in to waste resources on something nobody needs.

[Ser Pounce]

Originally posted by pRogz:

yeah your correct, but unlike a lot of other cross platform multiplayer online games this one does it very strangely. Why is the Microsoft Store version of this game compatibly with xbox but the Steam copy is not? I heard that yeah PC players could play with xbox people but didn't know the Steam copy did not.

time to copy/paste it again !

"Sony, Microsoft, and Valve have completely independent networks with very different communication protocols. Think of them as people speaking French, Russian, and Mandarin. You need a third-party translator - FF14 and Monster Hunter run external servers you log into that handle it. GSG does not (and probably will never) have anything like that."

[Vault Traveler]

in the end DRG has no crossplay. you buy it there you stuck with that.

and its also not really a promoted feature if you look at steam or ps store there is no mention about crossplay with other platforms.

and sry buying from windows store lol