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Gonzodiac Jul 28, 2021 @ 9:31am
Need clarification on Subata's Improved Alignment mod
DRG Wiki describes Subata's Improved Alignment: "Pin-point accuracy on first shot."

I actually need a clarification on this one, English is not my first language. Does the description mean first shot per new target, or first shot per magazine?

Btw does anyone use this Subata mod? +5 mag size is such an easy choice.
Originally posted by Derpykat5:
It's neither.

When you fire weapons, the spread is increased. When you stop firing, the spread is decreased down to a certain point.

This mod allows the subata to reach pinpoint accuaracy as long as you aren't firing quickly.
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Derpykat5 Jul 28, 2021 @ 9:43am 
It's neither.

When you fire weapons, the spread is increased. When you stop firing, the spread is decreased down to a certain point.

This mod allows the subata to reach pinpoint accuaracy as long as you aren't firing quickly.
Aimee Jul 28, 2021 @ 10:18am 
If thats true, then thats a pretty terrible wiki discription for what the modficiation actualy does :P
Derpykat5 Jul 28, 2021 @ 10:32am 
Originally posted by Aimee:
If thats true, then thats a pretty terrible wiki discription for what the modficiation actualy does :P
That's taken directly from the in-game description so...
Gonzodiac Jul 28, 2021 @ 11:31am 
Originally posted by derpykat5:
It's neither.

When you fire weapons, the spread is increased. When you stop firing, the spread is decreased down to a certain point.

This mod allows the subata to reach pinpoint accuaracy as long as you aren't firing quickly.

Got it, and your example was a good one. Many thanks!

Still wondering the usefulness of this mod. Sure, this sounds like a very nice mod, but personally I usually spam this weapon more or less at close or mid range as accurately as possible. So usually there's no time to wait to get Improved Alignment's bonus, I'd say. But maybe it's a good one at low RoF weakspot hunting? Explosive Reloads OC? Stunning Rounds OC? Thoughts and comments?
Teddy Leonhardt Jul 28, 2021 @ 11:57am 
Before you fire any amount of bullets, there's no weapon recoil at all. Your shot, however, will still land in a random spot based on the first bullet's base spread.

Once you start firing, the consecutive shots will not be accurate because of both the consecutive bullets' base spread and the weapon recoil.

With the Improved Alignment mod, your first shot will always be perfectly accurate. "First shot" meaning the first fire after a pause long enough for no recoil to come into play. This way you can shoot only once every second or so and always be accurate, for say, distant enemies.

With the Recoil Compensator mod, all your shots will have a 33% smaller spread, so all shots will still pick a random spot to land, but the circle with possible landings is reduced to be closer to the center (crosshair at the moment of firing). This also includes your first shot after no recoil, if you do not have Improved Alignment.
Additionally, Recoil Compensator also cuts the recoil of the weapon in two, so the pistol will not forcefully lift up your crosshair as much.


I personally prefer both of these upgrades at the same time, together with the tier 2 increased maximum ammunition, tier 4 extra damage to alien weakpoints and tier 5 extra damage against burning targets.
Nosteru Jul 28, 2021 @ 12:19pm 
Originally posted by Gonzodiac:
Originally posted by derpykat5:
It's neither.

When you fire weapons, the spread is increased. When you stop firing, the spread is decreased down to a certain point.

This mod allows the subata to reach pinpoint accuaracy as long as you aren't firing quickly.

Got it, and your example was a good one. Many thanks!

Still wondering the usefulness of this mod. Sure, this sounds like a very nice mod, but personally I usually spam this weapon more or less at close or mid range as accurately as possible. So usually there's no time to wait to get Improved Alignment's bonus, I'd say. But maybe it's a good one at low RoF weakspot hunting? Explosive Reloads OC? Stunning Rounds OC? Thoughts and comments?
I donno, if you go for weakspot the Chain Hit might be useful.
Sokaku Jul 28, 2021 @ 2:35pm 
Originally posted by Gonzodiac:
Still wondering the usefulness of this mod. Sure, this sounds like a very nice mod, but personally I usually spam this weapon more or less at close or mid range as accurately as possible. So usually there's no time to wait to get Improved Alignment's bonus, I'd say. But maybe it's a good one at low RoF weakspot hunting? Explosive Reloads OC? Stunning Rounds OC? Thoughts and comments?

Taking this plus recoil compensator, and then adding Explosive Reload gives you a very capable long-range support option for the driller. At close range you can spam-click 6 rounds into a weakpoint, or use staggered taps to easily nail mactera or distant targets extremely precisely and do a lot of damage. Each landed explosive round does 42 damage, whether you hit the weakpoint or not. Taking the hollow point mod turns the base 12 damage into 19 damage, or take a flat bump to 15 base damage. (Both are good) I also run the Mactera coating for an extra few points of damage against Mactera as even though I run Subata with a flamer, I'm generally using the sidearm for mid-long range support. I let Sticky Flames do their own work. The tranq rounds offer a good stun, but if I want to run status to immobilize swaths of bugs, I run Cryo as it stops them dead and grants a x3 damage bonus.
fwwm Jul 29, 2021 @ 12:43pm 
have you considered
Derpykat5 Jul 29, 2021 @ 1:33pm 
Originally posted by hemddd:
have you considered
Considered what?
DJDiceZ Jul 29, 2021 @ 7:53pm 
It means that your spread starts at "pin point" accuracy, decreasing with successive shots.
GIRL Jul 30, 2021 @ 12:27pm 
Originally posted by derpykat5:
Originally posted by hemddd:
have you considered
Considered what?
Progress?
Nosteru Jul 30, 2021 @ 12:30pm 
Originally posted by Femboy Thighs:
Originally posted by derpykat5:
Considered what?
Progress?
Did I hear a Rock and Progress?!
Sokaku Aug 1, 2021 @ 7:51pm 
Given this question has come up a couple of times, This is what the Improved Alignment actually does, in a picture.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2563735673

The starting "spread" indicator is tighter which represents the most accuracy the gun will offer, effectively on your first shot or any shot that you wait for the bloom shrink. The recoil compensator slows, and reduces the overall size that the bloom (chevrons) will grow as you pull the trigger.

With Improved Alignment, your single-shots will be pretty close to pinpoint accurate. How much and fast the reticule blooms affecting follow up shots will depend on whether you take the Recoil Compensator.
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