DRG Spawn Mechanics

[Coryphaeus]

They're terrible, yeah? I mean, my God, it's been 24 years since Goldeneye 007 set the stage for FPS and the enemy-spawning system, yet we're still supposed believe that DRG cannot do better than teleporting bugs through solid granitic rock and, most importantly, macteras through thin-air? I disagree and I believe that DRG can do much better than this.

[Cress]

It can certainly do better! Please propose your solutions to said problem. Have a nice debate guys ;)

[Coryphaeus]

1) Flyers should spawn out of sight.
2) I don't know what to do with melee
3) Chibbity is a forum shill
4) Everyone who disagrees should agree with me
5) Senseless bickering

So don't make another point (6) and just post that in a NEW TOPIC.

As requested by Cress:
1: True.
2. Same as #1
3. Obvious fact.
4. Only if they can offer contrary evidence. Which Cress clearly cannot.
5. Same as #4.

[Chibbity]

Please provide a solution that doesn't introduce new problems, and is reasonable to employ in terms of time/resources. Remember to be constructive! Thanks.

[Coryphaeus]

For other news, please refer to D4TA's post in relation to Chibbity's pleas for "solutions."

[Cress]

I don't know why you would derail your own thread right off the bat if you're looking to have an intelligent debate and come up with actual solutions to an issue you, and many other people, have with DRG.

If this is just a continuation of the previous thread, enjoy your troll session I guess... pretty sad it's come to this.

[Coryphaeus]

Originally posted by Cress:

I don't know why you would derail your own thread right off the bat if you're looking to have an intelligent debate and come up with actual solutions to an issue you, and many other people, have with DRG.

If this is just a continuation of the previous thread, enjoy your troll session I guess... pretty sad it's come to this.

You and I both know this is an issue. You and I both know that you refuse to give credence to such an issue. You had your chance for an intellectual debate regarding this game. You, and Chibbity, both chose to accuse me of "throwing tantrums." This thread is the result. Prove me wrong and I will admit it.

[JeanneOskoure]

Only Mactera spawning is broken. Other grounded enemies have a clear indication of where they are going to spawn.

[Cress]

Originally posted by Coryphaeus:

You and I both know this is an issue. You and I both know that you refuse to give credence to such an issue. You had your chance for an intellectual debate regarding this game. You, and Chibbity, both chose to accuse me of "throwing tantrums." This thread is the result. Prove me wrong and I will admit it.

This thread is literally a tantrum. You could have gathered your thoughts and proposed your ideas without bringing all that previous ♥♥♥♥ into it, but instead decided to just post that ♥♥♥♥ here. You may as well have just titled this "continuation of senseless bickering V1.0".

Have a nice day :)

[Chibbity]

Originally posted by Coryphaeus:

You and I both know this is an issue. You and I both know that you refuse to give credence to such an issue. You had your chance for an intellectual debate regarding this game. You, and Chibbity, both chose to accuse me of "throwing tantrums." This thread is the result. Prove me wrong and I will admit it.

We both agreed it was an issue that could be improved, we just asked for viable solutions.

I didn't accuse you of "throwing tantrums."

If you're going to be this hostile towards every poster in your thread who doesn't agree with you, this isn't going to be a very constructive discussion.

[Coryphaeus]

In case anyone is new to this debate, I'll make my position clear: the spawn mechanics in DRG are horrid and much change is needed to truly bring DRG into 1.0 phase. Having macteras spawn out of thin-air in front of you is absurd. Having bugs teleport through granitic rock in front of your face is absurd. Prior to Update 27, and possibly before that, spawns were limited to OPV (Outside Player View), and rightly so. Yet now, not only do we have bugs spawn beneath your feet, but we are to believe that bugs the size of 2-story buildings can jump and swim through solid rock? I call this nonsense and I would like to hear arguments to the contrary.

[Derpykat5]

What if there isn't anywhere nearby that's "out of sight"? I'd prefer that enemies blipped into existence in front of me rather than have them halfway across the map where they'll realistically never be a problem until the other threats are well over and done with, and since most of the challenges of swarms are the compounding threats, taking one out is bad.

Also; the grounded enemies are insectoids, tunneling through rock to reach you. How do you make that make more sense? There's a particle effect and everything.

[Coryphaeus]

Originally posted by Cress:

Originally posted by Coryphaeus:

You and I both know this is an issue. You and I both know that you refuse to give credence to such an issue. You had your chance for an intellectual debate regarding this game. You, and Chibbity, both chose to accuse me of "throwing tantrums." This thread is the result. Prove me wrong and I will admit it.

This thread is literally a tantrum. You could have gathered your thoughts and proposed your ideas without bringing all that previous ♥♥♥♥ into it, but instead decided to just post that ♥♥♥♥ here. You may as well have just titled this "continuation of senseless bickering V1.0".

Have a nice day :)

Failure is a difficult teacher.

[Derpykat5]

Originally posted by Coryphaeus:

...Prior to Update 27, and possibly before that, spawns were limited to OPV (Outside Player View)...

This has never been the case. Enemies, including mactera, have been spawning in line of sight since their inception. It's just not something that's easy to correct for.

[Chibbity]

Originally posted by derpykat5:

Originally posted by Coryphaeus:

...Prior to Update 27, and possibly before that, spawns were limited to OPV (Outside Player View)...

This has never been the case. Enemies, including mactera, have been spawning in line of sight since their inception. It's just not something that's easy to correct for.

Yeah... what?

Been playing since Steam launch; and it's always worked the same way.

Originally posted by Coryphaeus:

Yet now, not only do we have bugs spawn beneath your feet, but we are to believe that bugs the size of 2-story buildings can jump and swim through solid rock? I call this nonsense and I would like to hear arguments to the contrary.

Video games gonna video game.

A lot of things in DRG don't make sense when looked at from a "real world" perspective.

That's not an argument worth making, no offense.

[Coryphaeus]

Originally posted by Chibbity:

Originally posted by Coryphaeus:

You and I both know this is an issue. You and I both know that you refuse to give credence to such an issue. You had your chance for an intellectual debate regarding this game. You, and Chibbity, both chose to accuse me of "throwing tantrums." This thread is the result. Prove me wrong and I will admit it.

We both agreed it was an issue that could be improved, we just asked for viable solutions.

I didn't accuse you of "throwing tantrums."

If you're going to be this hostile towards every poster in your thread who doesn't agree with you, this isn't going to be a very constructive discussion.

You didn't accuse me of throwing tantrums, which is why the comment was directed at Cress. If you're going to misconstrue everything I say, sure, it won't be very constructive,.