What do you think about people cheating in this game?

[darklinkpower]

Story 1: So I joined someone that was cheating. When we started playing there was a Hoarder in the map near where we spawned but its position was not very good and we were a little far. The person in question marked him and we started going towards him but we were still far and he started shooting and needless to say it got away. I thought it was weird that he did that since he had already done one promotion with the character and was level 15 and was also blue level 27 IIRC so I would expect he already had enough experience with hoarders to not do this. Everything went smoothly, other people joined and we finished the mission. One of the people who joined was very high level, 300+ IIRC and said something about it "being sad" without context after finishing the mission. I asked what did he meant by that and he said that the host was cheating because he gained 5 levels in that single mission (from 16 to 21). The host started insulting, saying to "gtfo", that it was PvE and proceeded to kick everyone.

Story 2: Another time in a deep dive we were in mission 2 when a teammate pointed out that engineer was putting way too much platforms and asked if he was using a mod. The engineer stopped sending messages and never replied about it and I started focusing on him and he shot about 40~ platforms, almost non stop without taking ammo. The person never confirmed if he was cheating and even although the other teammates said that it was fine I didn't like it so I said sorry but I have to leave the game.

I personally don't like when people cheat in any game with online interaction even if it's PvE. In the first example, to start, people will assume the played has a certain amount of experience when the truth is different. In the second example the same can be said and also using ammo cheats will make the game easier and ruin the experience for everyone.


I think that people that use mods or cheats should go ahead but should ALWAYS tell the other people about it. I've seen plenty of people putting in their lobby that they are using certain mods and I think that's what everyone should be doing and is the most respectful thing to do for other players.

[Dead PL ayerCZ]

I agree, but do you really think that people who cheat give a damn about others? That said, it could(should) be fixed with the mod support update and the ability to blacklist modded players.

[Frisky]

I don't mind if players wanna cheat in their own games either solo or private (at the very worst a lobby that warns others of cheats/mods)

but if i find a lobby with mods I usually just leave, prefer playing 100% vanilla at the moment
If someone joins my game and is clearly using cheats or game altering mods in some way I'll always kick them

If they really wanna cheat then as long as they aren't bringing other players into it unwillingly I don't care

[Fly]

I don't get cheating in general. Either you win. Then you won because of the cheat not because you amount to anything. Or you lose.

And boy, must it be a kick in the ego when you cheat and STILL lose...

[Teddy Leonhardt]

Really uncertain here, if I actually ever seen someone cheat. Maybe I have but didn't notice?
However though, from what I gathered from topic to topic is that one can influence the course of the game on their side alone, no matter if they are the host of the game or not. I find that a bit weird that that's possible, but at the same time I did read that everyone can edit their save file however they want, so maybe the tampering extends to live game stats and ammo counts.

I don't want to say that I'm ignorant, but party member levels I only pay attention to twice really - at the start and at the end. I don't consider this information all that useful while the mission is in progress. If one level is clearly impressive, I guess I do tell myself briefly "Hmm, this is the guy with level a thousand or something, look at them.", but other than that, the only thing I can do is form basic and baseless assumptions on whether the player in question has a high enough level to know what they are doing.

Furthermore, the game is PvE, that is definitely true, but it's a co-op PvE. Every one player's performance indirectly affects the experience of all the others, so it's not like cheating becomes acceptable this way. The insects are computers, they don't get mad playing against a cheater, but by cheating you still negatively change the overall mission.

Cheating in DRG, to me, feels like playing something like Minecraft with three other strangers, only you are playing on creative mode because you desire the satisfaction of winning without actually having to worry about anything.
It's as if you're at a restaurant with three other people, everyone ordering normal meals, while one of them just orders ten bottles of ketchup and nothing more. And proceeds to eat only that, squeezing it from the bottle straight into their mouth. Everyone has their own tastes and desires, but it then becomes quite difficult to get past the weirdness and disgust of seeing such event, to actually enjoy your own conventional meal.

[Kitsune Dzelda]

Id think the constant kicking would be more than losing in a video game.

I mean, getting kicked from games all the time is probably a sign they dont care. Some people thrive on others negativity, so they use a different success currency; others misery. So chances are, just kicking them without saying a word would be more damaging. If they even cared. :P Its a vicious cycle.

[Data]

Cheating bad. If solo, whatever but I don't see why you'd ruin the game for yourself. If multiplayer/coop, see start of this message.

[gungadin22000]

Don't care at all.

[SCamp]

If you cheat, do it in your own game and I will not care. If you're cheating in your own game and I join, tell me so I know what's going on ESPECIALLY if it does something to my character/save so I can leave and not waste my time having to undo the effects.

Pretty simple consent ethics because it's a co-op game.

If this was a competitive game of some sort, then I'd be more harsh about it.

[Ultsi]

Cheating is a nono to begin with. Using exploits in PvE games is a nono as well.

If you see a cheater/exploiter, just PvP them and see how it goes.

[RUCKUS RELOADED]

cheaters who run their own lobbies are free to do as they wish (so long as they specify it's a hacked lobby)

cheaters who join others' games and use their trainers are scum and should be kicked on sight

my line of logic is simple - do whatever you want with your own games and lobbies so long as it isnt affecting anyone else. you paid for the game, you should get to do what you like with it. its when you're forcing your methods of play onto others is the moment you become an arsebandit

[Defektiv]

I used to care but at this point in my life as long as it doesn't effect me personally, influence development of a game or result in oppressive game features I have to deal with as a result, I don't really care. I personally have modded saves in games to try different things, but I delete them after or won't use them in multiplayer at the very least. But if someone wants to cheat themselves to the end of a games progression they're really only screwing themselves over. It's like having someone meet you at the entrance of a movie theater to spoil the entire movie before you go in to watch.

[NeloDante]

I don't care, as long as they are open about it. I just don't join but they are more than free to do so.

[<Caeris↝]

How did we say in the past and still could say if people cheat in multiplayer:

"They have a small dingli dongli and need it to compensate that."

[ShockedHearts]

I totally agree. cheats like that with infinite ammo or whatever tha changes the games balance are not ok because it effects others.

I personally think using mods that only effect you are different though. like I dont think its necessary to point out that im using a slightly better flashlight mod or using Reshade to improve visuals, or that I changed the skin of molly to be fancy for me only.

but if you are joining people or hosting games with gameplay changes that effect the balance like having classes with modded guns, lower nitra cost, making doretta OP etc should be advertised so you dont waste peoples time joining and quitting a game they dont want a part of.

[Nosteru]

They are loosers.