Tips for dealing with BETC

[marcusaddamsson]

I'm frequently playing driller these days, and with most of my driller builds BETC can be a bit of a challenge. Anyway, I thought perhaps people could share some ideas on dealing with her.

As driller, I will carve out two 'passages' in the cave we're in, that go inside the wall for about 15m and then come back out. BETC's weapons are easily foiled by ducking into a passage and coming out the other end...

[🥇 Xaxoon 🥇]

For me the most important thing is to not stop moving. If you stop running, you are dead. Thats for all classes the same.

[pcdeltalink]

Depends somewhat on hazard level that can determine how brave you can be. Personally, I tend to rush Bet-C when the shield is up and it’s spraying mines. This lets me unload into her weak spots at point blank range.

With Driller it also probably depends on your weapons. I use Flamer and Subata. Flamer can hit weak points regardless of where you aim and Subata can actually do a lot of damage at point blank range rapid fire.

[marcusaddamsson]

Yea, on H3 (and even H4) you can totally just bum-rush her. So long as you stay right on top of her, that gatlin gun can't rotate fast enough to shoot you.

Generally my flamer guy is Sticky Flames, so it doesn't have much range or direct dmg. And my secondary for him is explosive reload subbie, which is great... but works better from range.

[Frisky]

for me the best way to deal with BETC is to be aggressive, rush her down and stay very close to her

Circling her and staying very close works very well in my experience
as for driller alone the explosive reload subata is your best bet unless you wanna mess around with thin containment field spamming i guess

also neurotoxin grenades are a very powerful tool, they do fairly decent DoT but the best part is being able to slow betc to a crawl making her much easier to circle and chase down

but while running into her shield while shes minelaying is a good way to get damage it's very risky as two good explosions can easily mess you up or be your demise, I personally prefer to back up and just wait it out before attacking again but you might have better luck than I do with it lol

[Fryskar]

Originally posted by marcusaddamsson:

Yea, on H3 (and even H4) you can totally just bum-rush her. So long as you stay right on top of her, that gatlin gun can't rotate fast enough to shoot you.

Generally my flamer guy is Sticky Flames, so it doesn't have much range or direct dmg. And my secondary for him is explosive reload subbie, which is great... but works better from range.

With sticky you're pretty screwed in terms of primary, it suffers heavy against such targets.
Its 80% explosive resistance makes c4 nearly pointless too.
So axes, secondary or teammates are your weapon of choice.

[zverozvero]

In solo its Bosco ping at parasite till death. In team you are first candidate to be bate - most grenades and nearly all chaingun bursts come at one closest to her. Stay close (~10m) and run jumping around. Keep parasites (not bets) pinged so team could see those from safe distance. Chaingun mode is bread and butter of killing her. BET-C will keep focused on you and team can focus unimpeded. Some times it stays put while bursting which makes it even better.

[Nosteru]

I dont know but with partizan tactic, in solo you can send Bosco directly to suckers, also if you have neurotoxin grenade that do quite good damage on it. I know this from my gunner neurotoxin. i also alwys start him with a C4, not much damage but it give you some advantage.

[Frank Deluxe]

I play hazard 5 and my driller is a sticky fuel OC build, so when I run into BET-C I circle strafe and rely on my subata. I'll toss axes into the weakpoints according to oppurtunity, and hope my team can handle the rest.

[marcusaddamsson]

Huh. You know, I don't think I've ever tried to use Sticky Flames on a BETC... I just assumed it wouldn't work, 'cuz the 'face-suckers' aren't really on the ground.

[ShugoTheRipper]

The only reason she ever is a problem (On any difficulty) is because the team refuses to do one simple thing:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JvjJcaVJlH0

[Cress]

Originally posted by Xaxoon:

For me the most important thing is to not stop moving. If you stop running, you are dead. Thats for all classes the same.

That's a tip for pretty much any scenario in the game. Jumping/strafing around like a rabbit on meth is actually the safest way to play.

[DJDiceZ]

Originally posted by marcusaddamsson:

Yea, on H3 (and even H4) you can totally just bum-rush her. So long as you stay right on top of her, that gatlin gun can't rotate fast enough to shoot you.

That doesn't change in any difficulty. If you strafe without slowing down, it won't hit you. The explosive is the biggest threat, whereas the other two moves are both very well telegraphed and reliably avoidable.

Cover is nice but i wouldn't trust peekaboo strategies too much, i've seen them fail more often than having everyone rushing it down and unloading as much damage as possible right away.

Driller has some good tools against her, the grenades (axe/neuro), the C4, subata (auto)/EPC (heavy hitter). IIRC cryo works better against her, it still does a decent ammount of damage and has the advantage of not needing to be on the correct side, so Driller can dish out constant damage against BET-C. Another use of him in the fight is the ability to revive people in a relatively safe fashion, thanks to the drills.

If you just strafe around her, keep shooting, and your team helps properly, BET-C will go down in seconds even in Haz 5. Solo, it's arguably safer if you know what you are doing as she'll have less health, and Bosco can singlehandedly cheese the fight.

You can also power attack the charges, it's usually feasible to get in range without taking damage, and you have some time even if BET-C starts doing the shield attack (you can still go inside and hit her, but i don't recommend getting greedy like that).

Do pay attention to who BET-C is targeting.

It's better if you can start the fight with at least one resupply available for everyone, it significantly raises your chances.

Gunner should shield as much as he can, both to revive and to do damage. Scout can kite her pretty easily and revive those who get killed. Engie needs to be careful not to get careless, but with turrets set up before the fight, and doing a lot of damage with his primaries/breach cutter, he can pull his weight more than enough.

Perks like Berzerker, Shield Link, Beast Master, Dash, Field Medic, Iron Will, See You in Hell, Resupplier and Sweet Tooth all come in handy for the fight. An interesting strategy is See You In Hell, downing yourself on purpose next to it and triggering it will do a good chunk of damage but... it's mostly to ♥♥♥♥ around.

EDIT: Explosive Reload Subata is good too.

[Zé Bostola]

Originally posted by Fryskar:

Originally posted by marcusaddamsson:

Yea, on H3 (and even H4) you can totally just bum-rush her. So long as you stay right on top of her, that gatlin gun can't rotate fast enough to shoot you.

Generally my flamer guy is Sticky Flames, so it doesn't have much range or direct dmg. And my secondary for him is explosive reload subbie, which is great... but works better from range.

With sticky you're pretty screwed in terms of primary, it suffers heavy against such targets.
Its 80% explosive resistance makes c4 nearly pointless too.
So axes, secondary or teammates are your weapon of choice.

You forgot to mention power attacks. They're devastating to BETC, and big bugs in general.

[Scuzz MB]

Solo or in teams? Two ENTIRELY different ways of handling a BET-C.

In teams, an uncoordinated team with more than 2 inexperienced players it will always be a challenge no matter how skilled you are if you don't have some at least skeleton coordination either on voice with a basic predetermined strategy.

In solo, they are about the easiest thing to cheese in the game as long as you have Bosco, a bit of cover and some space.