Classes locked out?

[Henk Jansma]

How come sometimes I can join as a class already present, and other times classes are locked out?

[Grulos]

It is called "prevent latejoin duplication". If the host enables it, you cannot join as a class already present in that game. If it is disabled, you can.

[RainingMetal]

Let this be a reminder to you that people don't want a second Driller, Engineer, etc. Let this remind you to consider playing as other classes.

[phenir]

Originally posted by RainingMetal:

Let this be a reminder to you that people don't want a second Driller, Engineer, etc. Let this remind you to consider playing as other classes.

Speak for yourself. I leave my games open without the option so people can play whatever they want.

[MeatShake]

If you ever join as they're dropping from the station you can be a secondary class despite the class lock. Is there even an indicator on the missions for the lock? I never looked.

[RainingMetal]

Originally posted by phenir:

Originally posted by RainingMetal:

Let this be a reminder to you that people don't want a second Driller, Engineer, etc. Let this remind you to consider playing as other classes.

Speak for yourself. I leave my games open without the option so people can play whatever they want.

Have fun getting some jackass who plays as a redundant class. Your loss.

[Steelfist]

Originally posted by RainingMetal:

Originally posted by phenir:

Speak for yourself. I leave my games open without the option so people can play whatever they want.

Have fun getting some jackass who plays as a redundant class. Your loss.

I hate it when people equate 2+ of any class to mission failure or act like it makes the game much harder. With the tiniest bit of imagination most classes' mobility options can be substituted or worked around trivially, and with how things are balanced right now nobody is not combat viable.

I've played 3 monoclass games in the past week and just earlier played a fantastic 3 scout/1 engi game. Frankly I feel like doubling up some classes actually allows their real strengths to shine more than a 'standard' team.

[phenir]

Originally posted by MeatShake:

If you ever join as they're dropping from the station you can be a secondary class despite the class lock. Is there even an indicator on the missions for the lock? I never looked.

There is, the open class icons will have a dwarf on them. If you mouse over them it'll show the current classes present and "open slot (class locked)"

Originally posted by RainingMetal:

Have fun

I am.

[RainingMetal]

Maybe for you, ignorance is bliss. Oh well, some people are just hopeless.

[Steelfist]

Originally posted by RainingMetal:

Maybe for you, ignorance is bliss. Oh well, some people are just hopeless.

Have you tried multiclassing? It's good fun and gives you a little bit of creative freedom, since you don't have an urgent niche that needs filling. Be a metaslave if you like, but someone doubling up as a class isn't gonna fail you a mission or make it harder.

[RainingMetal]

Never. I consider it a most heinous sin. And I intend to get through my missions alive, not dead with some ingrate who put its own preferences above the team's needs. The fact that the devs allow this to happen is something ludicrous.

[Steelfist]

Originally posted by RainingMetal:

Never. I consider it a most heinous sin. And I intend to get through my missions alive, not dead with some ingrate who put its own preferences above the team's needs. The fact that the devs allow this to happen is something ludicrous.

Give it a try sometime. If you've got two brain cells to put together (and I'm sure you do,) you can work around all the 'problems' it causes. And there's no such thing as a double class causing you to fail a mission. If a double class interferes with your ability to play so much, you weren't good enough to play on that difficulty anyway.

I really don't understand this puritanism but I doubt I'm gonna change your mind on it.

[RainingMetal]

The closest thing to it was me being forced into that position by some ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ who joined way after I did, KNOWING he'd join as a duplicate class. It was a miserable experience, as the host didn't share my animosity towards these selfish types. I soon blocked that parasite as soon as our game ended. Often as soon as someone joins as a duplicate class, I get the hell out of dodge. This time I really needed to complete this particular mission. Didn't help that he acted like a troll.

People like that should burn in hell. And there is such thing as a double class causing a mission fail, it's called "not having the abilities the missing class has". What if you lacked a Driller to dig a shortcut to the escape pod, for instance?

[Fryskar]

Originally posted by phenir:

Originally posted by RainingMetal:

Let this be a reminder to you that people don't want a second Driller, Engineer, etc. Let this remind you to consider playing as other classes.

Speak for yourself. I leave my games open without the option so people can play whatever they want.

+1
I leave mine always open.
Its easy enough if you lack one class.
Imo gunner is often the one which hurts the least to not have.

[Steelfist]

Originally posted by RainingMetal:

The closest thing to it was me being forced into that position by some ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ who joined way after I did, KNOWING he'd join as a duplicate class. It was a miserable experience, as the host didn't share my animosity towards these selfish types. I soon blocked that parasite as soon as our game ended. Often as soon as someone joins as a duplicate class, I get the hell out of dodge. This time I really needed to complete this particular mission. Didn't help that he acted like a troll.

People like that should burn in hell. And there is such thing as a double class causing a mission fail, it's called "not having the abilities the missing class has". What if you lacked a Driller to dig a shortcut to the escape pod, for instance?

Then run to the pod? Drilling to the pod is cheesy emergent gameplay anyways. Four scouts can get to the pod going the 'long way' back faster than a driller could in a straight line. Literally any of the classes' movement utilities can be replaced by another.

Engis can replace pretty much anything with a series of platforms, drillers make a path literally anywhere, gunners can spam zipline webs and equally trivialize matters, scouts don't need help.

Seriously, just get a little creative. And chill out, it's just a game.

[RainingMetal]

It's not just the whole matter of difficulty, it's also the fact that some people are willing to reinforce bad habits from bad players.