Mines are nerfed too:"Proximity Mine now has a 3-minute lifespan after being triggered once"

[livinghell]

Forget IW, I want usual mine behavior back.

[livinghell]

Originally posted by shovel:

"nerfed"

More like a QoL change for the team playing with a mine engi. Tired of all the randomass mines laying around chunking you when you're trying to kite.

I promise you that I always istalled them on wall or on ceilings of the corridors. For good engies it is a nerf. They not often survived a single wave, but if they do it, they are still useful. Instead of nerfing them, also disarming could be offered as option.

[livinghell]

Originally posted by shovel:

Majority of mine engies are casuals who throw them willy nilly, so this is a good QoL change. Just cause you are good, don't mean the majority are.

I mean disarming them would just immediately remove them, so it having a life span of 3 minutes (which I admit should be more closer to maybe 5 so it can maybe survive till the start of the next wave on haz 5) seems like a good middle ground for both sides.

2 waves ~ 5 min is actually a very good value. From infinity to 3 min (1 wave) is a bit too strong nerf.

[MrPurple33]

I play Engie the most, and use Proximity Mines 90% of the time
Sure this balancing will take some getting used to, but unlike the Iron Will complainers, I'll adjust to it and be fine- honestly, as much as I Love the Proxies, I feel they were OP actually
I do Solo Salvage missions a Lot, and while I'll miss the Pure Joy of having a constant minefield blowing Bugs away comboed with the GL - 3 minutes should be plenty of time to still multiple hit most waves

There ARE two minor annoyances with the Prox Mines changes
1) I used to set up Traps and Minefields BEFORE I started whacking away at an Uplink,etc
now I have to whack those to 85% THEN toss my mines
2) Those times when I would plant a Prox Mine on the run down a Mining Mission, it would use a charge, then 15 minutes Later on the Run Back to the Pod, It would still be there, as an extra Boom for pursuing Bugs- a small thing, not vital, but it would be handy- and always amuse me

[St0rmFury]

Originally posted by MrPurple33:

I play Engie the most, and use Proximity Mines 90% of the time
Sure this balancing will take some getting used to, but unlike the Iron Will complainers, I'll adjust to it and be fine- honestly, as much as I Love the Proxies, I feel they were OP actually
I do Solo Salvage missions a Lot, and while I'll miss the Pure Joy of having a constant minefield blowing Bugs away comboed with the GL - 3 minutes should be plenty of time to still multiple hit most waves

There ARE two minor annoyances with the Prox Mines changes
1) I used to set up Traps and Minefields BEFORE I started whacking away at an Uplink,etc
now I have to whack those to 85% THEN toss my mines
2) Those times when I would plant a Prox Mine on the run down a Mining Mission, it would use a charge, then 15 minutes Later on the Run Back to the Pod, It would still be there, as an extra Boom for pursuing Bugs- a small thing, not vital, but it would be handy- and always amuse me

The 3 minute countdown only starts after the first explosion, so you can still booby trap the extraction zone before whacking.

[MrPurple33]

Hahaha- ty ty tyvm for that Info StormFury- I've been Paranoid/Too Cautious for no reason
This will greatly help in my general Trap Seting as well
very helpful