OMEN MODULAR EXTERMINATOR IS USELESS BUT KILL DWARF

[John]

I wonder why this machine can not kill bugs but dwarf.It was designed to kill bugs ,right?
I can bear that it out of control and dwarfs have to destroy it ,but when it begin to run ,it can not kill any bugs.Obviously it was not be infected.So why it does not kill bugs? There was one time I start it and stand on it trying to use it kill bugs when my teammate was doing other things ,it started then the bugs come out ,then I found this OMEN MODULAR EXTERMINATOR useless.

I mean if it can kill bugs ,it will be very cool ,right?

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17/April/2022

[gungadin22000]

It's a feature, not a bug.

Meaning that it is a CHALLENGE FOR THE PLAYERS! It is not there to help you, it is there to MURDER you. If you manage to destroy it, you can get an overclock if you have a blank core.

[John]

Originally posted by gungadin22000:

It's a feature, not a bug.

Meaning that it is a CHALLENGE FOR THE PLAYERS! It is not there to help you, it is there to MURDER you. If you manage to destroy it, you can get an overclock if you have a blank core.

Know it , but its name is "OMEN MODULAR EXTERMINATOR" that means it created for bugs killing ,even it out of control, it should can make damage to the bugs not only to dwarfs,and what I said is when I stand on it ,the AI of the bugs will try to get close to me ,and the machine can not make damage to me but bugs ,that will be a very cool things. I think the reason why it can only hurt dwarfs because the "Ghost Ship" pay most of their attention to how it works and how it make damage but forget the first design of it. I think if "Ghost Ship" want to fix it ,it will be a very easy thing to them an it also will be a very cool thing to players.
Well , you know there is no bullets or laser made by the company just for hurt dwarfs.

[gungadin22000]

I think what you are looking for is Bet-C. If you can defeat the Bet-C miniboss, she can be made to fight for you, and is actually really helpful.

[Issen Nox]

What s/he means is that if bugs happen to walk in the crossfire between Omen tower and a player, they take no damage from the tower at all. They are invincible. And I think he is right that this is a little stupid design. Tower should still aim for players who try to mess with it but, purple beams still could damage bugs that happen to walk into them. It basically makes no sense.

Wild Bet-C projectiles can harm bugs when we fight it and they happen to walk into a granade. Check.
Charges at Tritilyte Crystal deposit can also blow up bugs. Check.

But Omen tower? Nothing.

[ivor_bign]

its an interesting point and i absolutely agree.

at which point in the exterminators malfunction did its weapons stop doing damage to bugs?

if anything the difficulty of that machine event should be made a lot more difficult but actually do damage to any living creatures not just the hairy ones.

[Chibbity]

I mean...are we arguing this from a real world logic perspective, or a game play balance perspective?

Because this is a video game after all.

Does anyone have any good game play reasons why it killing bugs would be beneficial? Because to me, it seems like it would just make it an easier event than the others.

[Steelfist]

I think part of its description when it was introduced was something along the lines of, "We tried to use these to help with the bugs, but they didn't work. Now they're more of a threat to us and our miners than anything."

[Chibbity]

Originally posted by 年轻的司机:

Well, isn't the fun what the virtual world have because of the connection it has to the real world ?
And the most important thing is don't you think the machine can kill bugs is a cool thing ?Or you just use C4 as stone kill bugs by throw them without any explosion ?
Well I have to say , use C4 as stone is fun.But the machine which should kill bugs but it do not is not funny.
OKEY, say it in an easy way, you can use bullet make friendly fire, but you can not use the bullet hurt bugs,what's the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ point ?

No, it isn't. Not in a sci-fi fantasy game about Dwarves in space killing bugs anyways. Realism isn't the point and it shouldn't be.

Again, do you have a valid argument for why from a gameplay perspective the Omen tower should offer protection from random waves when none of the other machine events do?

[John]

Originally posted by Steelfist:

I think part of its description when it was introduced was something along the lines of, "We tried to use these to help with the bugs, but they didn't work. Now they're more of a threat to us and our miners than anything."

Which types of bullet/laser can only hurt dwarfs ?The point is not on the description but on the bullet/laser the machine shoot can just hurt dwarfs.This makes no sense.

[Chibbity]

Originally posted by 年轻的司机:

So,what you mean is the machine should offer protection from random waves to the dwarfs at first,but now with some problem it only help the bugs?WTF?!
I could only say ,what a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ Hi-tech problem the machine has!:lunar2019madpig:

No, that's not what I'm saying at all.

Not trying to be rude but I think there is a serious language barrier here, and I'm not sure what can be gained from us conversing in English? I don't think you have a firm enough grasp of it to understand what were saying.

I'm saying: Real world logic doesn't matter, it's not relevant to a video games balance. None of the other machine events offer the players any protection from random bug waves (by killing the bugs), so why should the Omen tower?

[Chibbity]

Originally posted by 年轻的司机:

Still use that example ,the drug which kill bugs ,you eat them and it will hurt you,in your opinion,the drug will not hurt you but only hurt the bugs, and now it only hurt you but not hurt the bugs?WTF?:lunar2019madpig:

You're still arguing real world logic in a video game, you also still have no idea what I'm saying because English isn't your first language.

Again, no offense; but maybe you should find some people who speak your language to talk to about DRG?

We're not gonna get very far misunderstanding each other like this.

[John]

Originally posted by Chibbity:

Originally posted by 年轻的司机:

So,what you mean is the machine should offer protection from random waves to the dwarfs at first,but now with some problem it only help the bugs?WTF?!
I could only say ,what a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ Hi-tech problem the machine has!

No, that's not what I'm saying at all.

Not trying to be rude but I think there is a serious language barrier here, and I'm not sure what can be gained from us conversing in English? I don't think you have a firm enough grasp of it to understand what were saying.

I'm saying: Real world logic doesn't matter, it's not relevant to a video games balance. None of the other machine events offer the players any protection from random bug waves (by killing the bugs), so why should the Omen tower?

Do not think the tower should protect dwarfs, the bullet/laser which the machine shoot should also make damage to the bugs not only to dwarfs.

[Chibbity]

Originally posted by 年轻的司机:

I do not think the tower should protect dwarfs,what I mean is the bullet/laser which the machine shoot should also make damage to the bugs not only to dwarfs.

But none of the other machine events kill bugs, why should the Omen tower be easier than the other events?

When I say "protect the Dwarves", I mean by killing the bugs.

Killing random bugs = easier machine event.

[Chibbity]

Alright, best of luck with that.

[DariusSlayer]

I'm in agreement with OP on this one. The original design of the Tower was to eliminate bugs, as was BET-C, and yet the Tower doesn't - unlike BET-C - upon activation. The attacks from the Tower should at least damage the bugs or hinder them in some way during the event, which would make it somewhat more "balanced".