Half-Life: Alyx

Half-Life: Alyx

Statistiche:
EXTREMELY HIGH CPU/LOW GPU USAGE (need help)
Specs: Gtx 1660ti, 12gb ddr3, I5-3570 overclocked

So I've tried hours of troubleshooting but I can't get it to run smoothly no matter what the SS or graphics setting either in game or in the nvidia control panel are. My gpu is at 53% utilization while my cpu is just maxing out on the task manager, but my cpu is only slightly under min spec and overclocked at that! It runs almost the same on ultra as it does on very low which makes me think there is a way around this. Most vr games run very good to decent on this pc, so given the min spec and people saying they were fine with a 1060 I should be able to have a playable experience....right?

(Also I have 40 gigs free on my hdd so its not a page file issue as far as I can tell)

plz help :(
Messaggio originale di Super Bambaspis:
Your CPU simply doesn't cut the mustard, that's why it's at 100% while your GPU is waiting on it. That's a $50 CPU these days. The mhz might seem comparable to the min spec, but you have to consider the IPC of that 8yr old CPU. Especially if it doesn't support more efficient instructions that this game would rather be using (Does Alyx use AVX2 or FMA3?). It's not all about mhz rating.

Edit: Running the same on low and high settings is extremely common when you're in a CPU bound situation. Putting more or less on the GPU doesn't do anything because it's still waiting on the CPU.

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Another 12gb Ram user. 12GB of Ram is not going to run in Dual Channel.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-k5wA7EFwpo

Take a look here. Always get 2 sticks of the same capacity. You can see 2 sticks of 4GB beating 1 stick of 8GB. If you have 8GB and 4GB you are not benefiting.
Ultima modifica da chosenxeno; 30 mar 2020, ore 9:48
Min CPU for the game is Core i5-7500. sounds like your CPU isnt cutting it. that would be why its 100% utilization.
Messaggio originale di Stalin Incognito:
Min CPU for the game is Core i5-7500. sounds like your CPU isnt cutting it. that would be why its 100% utilization.

So if my CPU is a i7-4th gen(i7-4770) Run fine for me on highest setting even.
Although the source engine is more relying on the CPU then the GPU Like TF2 does.

I can run TF2 on a old dual-core(not even a i3,i5 or i7, im talking about really cheap ones) processor with a Sapphire R7250 Card(2Gb)on medium to high settings.
(Just pointing it out on what i have experienced with Computer hardware from many broken Desktops i had taken apart to build working ones for people who need them [Hobby i stopped doing a year ago])

Try turning "low latency mode" to "off" in Nvidia control panel - this can sometimes help when the CPU is the bottleneck
Messaggio originale di chosenxeno:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-k5wA7EFwpo

Take a look here. Always get 2 sticks of the same capacity. You can see 2 sticks of 4GB beating 1 stick of 8GB. If you have 8GB and 4GB you are not benefiting.

Do agree on using 2 or 4 Ram sticks helps to divide the memory to make accessing data better.
Unless the Discussion Post Author dont have a 2 or 4 slots Motherboard then he has to replace the Motherboard that is compactible with its CPU socket type.
And its current Case Size must be able to fit the motherboard also.

**Sorry im just being to detailed about stuff allot**
Messaggio originale di chosenxeno:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-k5wA7EFwpo

Take a look here. Always get 2 sticks of the same capacity. You can see 2 sticks of 4GB beating 1 stick of 8GB. If you have 8GB and 4GB you are not benefiting.


I have the exact same ram for both channels (just 8gb and 4gb respectively) and they are recognized by my computer. Another game that has a min spec of 12gb of ram is H3 VR and I run that at high settings with no reprojection though to be fair it's a bet less graphically intensive but close physics wise. I don't see why that would cause 100% cpu usage and such low gpu usage with no change when upping the settings.




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Your CPU simply doesn't cut the mustard, that's why it's at 100% while your GPU is waiting on it. That's a $50 CPU these days. The mhz might seem comparable to the min spec, but you have to consider the IPC of that 8yr old CPU. Especially if it doesn't support more efficient instructions that this game would rather be using (Does Alyx use AVX2 or FMA3?). It's not all about mhz rating.

Edit: Running the same on low and high settings is extremely common when you're in a CPU bound situation. Putting more or less on the GPU doesn't do anything because it's still waiting on the CPU.

Ultima modifica da Super Bambaspis; 30 mar 2020, ore 11:09
Messaggio originale di Bilbo Laggins:
Your CPU simply doesn't cut the mustard, that's why it's at 100% while your GPU is waiting on it. That's a $50 CPU these days. The mhz might seem comparable to the min spec, but you have to consider the IPC of that 8yr old CPU. Especially if it doesn't support more efficient instructions that this game would rather be using (Does Alyx use AVX2 or FMA3?). It's not all about mhz rating.

Edit: Running the same on low and high settings is extremely common when your in a CPU bound situation. Putting more or less on the GPU doesn't do anything because it's still waiting on the CPU.

^ This.
Messaggio originale di Bilbo Laggins:
Your CPU simply doesn't cut the mustard, that's why it's at 100% while your GPU is waiting on it. That's a $50 CPU these days. The mhz might seem comparable to the min spec, but you have to consider the IPC of that 8yr old CPU. Especially if it doesn't support more efficient instructions that this game would rather be using (Does Alyx use AVX2 or FMA3?). It's not all about mhz rating.

Edit: Running the same on low and high settings is extremely common when you're in a CPU bound situation. Putting more or less on the GPU doesn't do anything because it's still waiting on the CPU.

Ok thanks, that makes sense considering the only other vr games I've had any issues with were more cpu heavy. It's gonna be a pain because I'll have to get a new case and mother board to upgrade the cpu, but hopefully it will be worth it. Do you guys have any suggestions for a more modern, well performing but still not overly expensive cpu?
Messaggio originale di Dude2200:
Messaggio originale di Bilbo Laggins:
Your CPU simply doesn't cut the mustard, that's why it's at 100% while your GPU is waiting on it. That's a $50 CPU these days. The mhz might seem comparable to the min spec, but you have to consider the IPC of that 8yr old CPU. Especially if it doesn't support more efficient instructions that this game would rather be using (Does Alyx use AVX2 or FMA3?). It's not all about mhz rating.

Edit: Running the same on low and high settings is extremely common when you're in a CPU bound situation. Putting more or less on the GPU doesn't do anything because it's still waiting on the CPU.

Ok thanks, that makes sense considering the only other vr games I've had any issues with were more cpu heavy. It's gonna be a pain because I'll have to get a new case and mother board to upgrade the cpu, but hopefully it will be worth it. Do you guys have any suggestions for a more modern, well performing but still not overly expensive cpu?

Depends on ya budget
And mostly how heavy the programs are that ya want to run it on.
Messaggio originale di RedzeyBlade:
Messaggio originale di Dude2200:

Ok thanks, that makes sense considering the only other vr games I've had any issues with were more cpu heavy. It's gonna be a pain because I'll have to get a new case and mother board to upgrade the cpu, but hopefully it will be worth it. Do you guys have any suggestions for a more modern, well performing but still not overly expensive cpu?

Depends on ya budget
And mostly how heavy the programs are that ya want to run it on.

I would say max would be $250 but between $150-$200 would be preferable. I want to see better performance in games like no mans sky vr and obviously half life alyx, but I do want to make sure I can play new vr games for a few years no problem.
Im not sure how the prices are for Pc specs in American Dollars but i can tell you to get at least a i7-4th gen or higher for a upgrade and a motherboard that supports 4-RAM sticks and the CPU-Socket type.

Other idea is but not a recommendation for 2 years in the future is finding a i7-3rd gen CPU it should have the same Socket as ya current CPU.
Yeah it looks like a new motherboard, ram and CPU as everything is a little old on it. Upgrading to faster 3rd gen CPU might give you the same issues. That kinda blows out your budget though.

A Ryzen build would be best for you on your budget, but you would have to save a little more. One of the 6 core Ryzen 3600's should do you nicely for the next few years, though the CPU with RAM and Mobo will cost you $300 on the low end (more likely $350) assuming we are talking about USD.

Bad time to upgrade though, prices are in flux with corona.
Ultima modifica da Super Bambaspis; 30 mar 2020, ore 12:24
Messaggio originale di Bilbo Laggins:
Yeah it looks like a new motherboard, ram and CPU as everything is a little old on it. Upgrading to faster 3rd gen CPU might give you the same issues. That kinda blows out your budget though.

A Ryzen build would be best for you on your budget, but you would have to save a little more. One of the 6 core Ryzen 3600's should do you nicely for the next few years, though the CPU with RAM and Mobo will cost you $300 on the low end (more likely $350) assuming we are talking about USD.

Bad time to upgrade though, prices are in flux with corona.

Ok I gotcha, thanks for the input.
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