Valve index with a gtx 1060 6gb

[MEzZ]

I'm planning to upgrade my pc next year, but i wanted to know if my current pc could run the game smooth with the valve index. I heard that the index can use lower refresh rate like 80 or 90 hz and not just high refresh rates like 120 or 144hz, so i wonder if it can work with my current pc.

[Chaunsey]

the min spec calls for a 1060, so yes, it should be able to run well on low settings at least, and since it doesnt specify which headset that is for, its possible they are assuming that works for the index, because obviously a vive would be lower res and easier to run.

the index does have 80, 90 , 120, and 144 hz modes, and actually some people apparently use 120 or 144hz to run the game at half FPS with reprojected frames which makes it more smooth.

thats how the PSVR works on such weak hardware, it is a 120hz screen, running at 60FPS, with reprojection inserting duplicate frames between the actual frames to make it look smoother.

you can also turn the super sampling lower than 1.0 to reduce the resolution the game renders at.

so there are options, so even if the game is tough for you to run, you should be able to manage until you get your new gear.

then again, maybe the performance will be better than anticipated and it runs well even with decent settings, we'll have to wait and see.

[MEzZ]

Originally posted by Chaunsey:

the min spec calls for a 1060, so yes, it should be able to run well on low settings at least, and since it doesnt specify which headset that is for, its possible they are assuming that works for the index, because obviously a vive would be lower res and easier to run.

the index does have 80, 90 , 120, and 144 hz modes, and actually some people apparently use 120 or 144hz to run the game at half FPS with reprojected frames which makes it more smooth.

thats how the PSVR works on such weak hardware, it is a 120hz screen, running at 60FPS, with reprojection inserting duplicate frames between the actual frames to make it look smoother.

you can also turn the super sampling lower than 1.0 to reduce the resolution the game renders at.

so there are options, so even if the game is tough for you to run, you should be able to manage until you get your new gear.

then again, maybe the performance will be better than anticipated and it runs well even with decent settings, we'll have to wait and see.

wont you feel more motion sickness if the framerate is at 60fps and not higher like 80-144? then again, i've never tried vr in my life so who knows.

[WeirdWizardDave]

Originally posted by MEzZ:

Originally posted by Chaunsey:

the min spec calls for a 1060, so yes, it should be able to run well on low settings at least, and since it doesnt specify which headset that is for, its possible they are assuming that works for the index, because obviously a vive would be lower res and easier to run.

the index does have 80, 90 , 120, and 144 hz modes, and actually some people apparently use 120 or 144hz to run the game at half FPS with reprojected frames which makes it more smooth.

thats how the PSVR works on such weak hardware, it is a 120hz screen, running at 60FPS, with reprojection inserting duplicate frames between the actual frames to make it look smoother.

you can also turn the super sampling lower than 1.0 to reduce the resolution the game renders at.

so there are options, so even if the game is tough for you to run, you should be able to manage until you get your new gear.

then again, maybe the performance will be better than anticipated and it runs well even with decent settings, we'll have to wait and see.

wont you feel more motion sickness if the framerate is at 60fps and not higher like 80-144? then again, i've never tried vr in my life so who knows.

It really depends, some fairly small percentage of people will experience some simulation sickness at frame rates below 90 (some even smaller percentage need at least 120). But chances are you'll be fine, especially with a bit of time to get your VR legs and being sure not to push yourself.

The most important thing is to start with short sessions and never push yourself once you start to feel anything. With VR (unlike say being on a boat) you can immediately stop the disparity between your inner ear and your eyes by taking off the headset. Your body will soon learn that everything is fine and the disparity doesn't mean you need to empty your stomach in case you#ve ingested some mushrooms you shouldn't have.

[MEzZ]

hmm, alright then, time to save some money for the index.

[FeilDOW]

I would suggest a GPU upgrade before dropping that kind of money on the highest end VR kit.

A 1060 isn't going to push 2880x1600 at above 60hz very well.

[MEzZ]

Originally posted by FeilDOW:

I would suggest a GPU upgrade before dropping that kind of money on the highest end VR kit.

yea i think i'm gonna upgrade first. probably wont be able to play the game on launch but i'll be fine. (hopefully)

[WeirdWizardDave]

Originally posted by FeilDOW:

I would suggest a GPU upgrade before dropping that kind of money on the highest end VR kit.

A 1060 isn't going to push 2880x1600 at above 60hz very well.

Either or, personally I got my Vive when I was still running a 960, which was well under spec. It worked fine in some VR games, okay (but with low frame rates) in others and not at all in some. I bought a 1060 6gb about 6 months later which is a world fo difference. But I still enjoyed my VR kit on the old card. Obviously you are going to want to do both it's just a matter of which comes first and how much time between the two. A 1060, unlike my old 960 is technically within spec so I'm sure it'll be fine albeit with some downscaling possibly if you find you need to maintain a higher framerate.

[FeilDOW]

Originally posted by WeirdWizardDave:

Originally posted by FeilDOW:

I would suggest a GPU upgrade before dropping that kind of money on the highest end VR kit.

A 1060 isn't going to push 2880x1600 at above 60hz very well.

Either or, personally I got my Vive when I was still running a 960, which was well under spec. It worked fine in some VR games, okay (but with low frame rates) in others and not at all in some. I bought a 1060 6gb about 6 months later which is a world fo difference. But I still enjoyed my VR kit on the old card. Obviously you are going to want to do both it's just a matter of which comes first and how much time between the two. A 1060, unlike my old 960 is technically within spec so I'm sure it'll be fine albeit with some downscaling possibly if you find you need to maintain a higher framerate.

Your going to be pushing 52% more pixels with a Index compared to the Vive, so not really a comparable HMD.

I personally wouldn't match a top of the line $1000 HMD with a mid range card from last gen that can be had for $200 or under, I would suggest looking for a used 1070 ti/1080, or a 2070 super if in the budget.

[Catgirl (male)]

Originally posted by MEzZ:

Originally posted by FeilDOW:

I would suggest a GPU upgrade before dropping that kind of money on the highest end VR kit.

yea i think i'm gonna upgrade first. probably wont be able to play the game on launch but i'll be fine. (hopefully)

You won't be able to take advantage of the Index's high resolution, but you will definitely be able to run Alyx at a good framerate with low settings. I don't think they would be dumb enough to low-ball the sysreqs.

[Chaunsey]

Originally posted by MEzZ:

Originally posted by Chaunsey:

the min spec calls for a 1060, so yes, it should be able to run well on low settings at least, and since it doesnt specify which headset that is for, its possible they are assuming that works for the index, because obviously a vive would be lower res and easier to run.

the index does have 80, 90 , 120, and 144 hz modes, and actually some people apparently use 120 or 144hz to run the game at half FPS with reprojected frames which makes it more smooth.

thats how the PSVR works on such weak hardware, it is a 120hz screen, running at 60FPS, with reprojection inserting duplicate frames between the actual frames to make it look smoother.

you can also turn the super sampling lower than 1.0 to reduce the resolution the game renders at.

so there are options, so even if the game is tough for you to run, you should be able to manage until you get your new gear.

then again, maybe the performance will be better than anticipated and it runs well even with decent settings, we'll have to wait and see.

wont you feel more motion sickness if the framerate is at 60fps and not higher like 80-144? then again, i've never tried vr in my life so who knows.

different people have different tolerance, also steamVR will reproject frames, so your actual view will move at 90 or 120 FPS for example, but the image will be slower, at just 60 frames or whatever. so it is not as bad as it would be if it was just straight up 60 frames.

when VR came along everyone said 90 frames was the target for comfort, but oculus has been dialing that back, the rift S is only 80 and the quest is only 70.

so most people will be ok even down a ways under 90.

if you're looking to get an index though i happen to agree, you shouldnt be looking to get an index, but expecting to run it at quest FPS, with 1st gen resolution.


if you know you are going to upgrade your PC, then by all means, get the index now while you can still get the bonus content, especially since now there is a wait list, so you wont get it for a while anyway, it wont be useless before you upgrade, you'll be able to play some things. but if buying the index means not upgrading your PC, i think you're better off upgrading your PC first.

[MEzZ]

Originally posted by Chaunsey:

Originally posted by MEzZ:

wont you feel more motion sickness if the framerate is at 60fps and not higher like 80-144? then again, i've never tried vr in my life so who knows.

different people have different tolerance, also steamVR will reproject frames, so your actual view will move at 90 or 120 FPS for example, but the image will be slower, at just 60 frames or whatever. so it is not as bad as it would be if it was just straight up 60 frames.

when VR came along everyone said 90 frames was the target for comfort, but oculus has been dialing that back, the rift S is only 80 and the quest is only 70.

so most people will be ok even down a ways under 90.

if you're looking to get an index though i happen to agree, you shouldnt be looking to get an index, but expecting to run it at quest FPS, with 1st gen resolution.


if you know you are going to upgrade your PC, then by all means, get the index now while you can still get the bonus content, especially since now there is a wait list, so you wont get it for a while anyway, it wont be useless before you upgrade, you'll be able to play some things. but if buying the index means not upgrading your PC, i think you're better off upgrading your PC first.

What are the bonus content btw?

[Chaunsey]

Originally posted by MEzZ:

Originally posted by Chaunsey:

different people have different tolerance, also steamVR will reproject frames, so your actual view will move at 90 or 120 FPS for example, but the image will be slower, at just 60 frames or whatever. so it is not as bad as it would be if it was just straight up 60 frames.

when VR came along everyone said 90 frames was the target for comfort, but oculus has been dialing that back, the rift S is only 80 and the quest is only 70.

so most people will be ok even down a ways under 90.

if you're looking to get an index though i happen to agree, you shouldnt be looking to get an index, but expecting to run it at quest FPS, with 1st gen resolution.


if you know you are going to upgrade your PC, then by all means, get the index now while you can still get the bonus content, especially since now there is a wait list, so you wont get it for a while anyway, it wont be useless before you upgrade, you'll be able to play some things. but if buying the index means not upgrading your PC, i think you're better off upgrading your PC first.

What are the bonus content btw?

steam home environments, in game gun skins, and CS:GO items. they are exclusive to anyone who buys the index in 2019.

[MEzZ]

Originally posted by Chaunsey:

Originally posted by MEzZ:

What are the bonus content btw?

steam home environments, in game gun skins, and CS:GO items. they are exclusive to anyone who buys the index in 2019.

yea.. i'll upgrade my pc first, the index is currently more expensive in my country so i'll probably be waiting till the price drops, if it doesnt drop, then i'll probably buy the OG vive + the index controllers.

[Wompa]

Originally posted by MEzZ:

Originally posted by Chaunsey:

steam home environments, in game gun skins, and CS:GO items. they are exclusive to anyone who buys the index in 2019.

yea.. i'll upgrade my pc first, the index is currently more expensive in my country so i'll probably be waiting till the price drops, if it doesnt drop, then i'll probably buy the OG vive + the index controllers.

I'm sure the Price won't drop for a long time.

[rusty_dragon]

Originally posted by MEzZ:

Originally posted by Chaunsey:

steam home environments, in game gun skins, and CS:GO items. they are exclusive to anyone who buys the index in 2019.

yea.. i'll upgrade my pc first, the index is currently more expensive in my country so i'll probably be waiting till the price drops, if it doesnt drop, then i'll probably buy the OG vive + the index controllers.

OG Vive+ index controllers is a way to go. You can also get used OG Vive for cheap. Those are build like tanks, so if you know how to buy used - you'll be fine.
As for 1060, it's a min spec VR card, so don't expect it to run VR games smooth as butter. But they will work with reprojection(generating artificial frames from 45 FPS), most of them.