Astroloy reagent mix not smelting

[Bryn]

I have reagent mix of astroloy but it won't smelt in the advanced furnace at 1050 kelvin and 31mpa which is what the stationpedia says should work.

Steps to reproduce: Spawn on venus and make a centrifuge and recycle and put your hardsuit inside the recycler giving you astroloy reagent mix. Put said reagent mix into advanced furnace at 1000+kelvin at 30+mpa pressure and watch stationpedia become a liar.

[tripodalt]

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QF-nbW7fUMBaZzKwUp9smkQxVwfxMicF7FhgRFf7-Tw/edit#gid=2130704029
it confirmed by the sheet cheat
is that happend at more high temps too ?

[cyberjacques]

Have you verified that the ratio inside the furnace is indeed astroloy? It seems like more than that would come out of a hardsuit, maybe your reagent mix is another alloy?

[Bryn]

Yes, I've taken the astroloy out of the furnace and even put it back through the centrifuge several time in case it was a bugged item or something. Also tried doing only 50 at a time. Also tried a higher temp and pressure and lower temp and pressure.

I'm guessing it's just the reagent mix itself thats bugged? I will attempt to smelt astroloy from ingots and just presume the reagent mix as inoperable/bugged for now.

[Bryn]

As for verifying the mix is indeed astroloy yes I made sure all the reagents were seperated before i tried to turn them back into inots. Steel, iron, all the normal ores and alloys work as intended but the superalloys seem impossible to convert from reagent mix back into ingots.

Perhaps it's because I mixed multiple stacks of astroloy in the same furnace? I figured astroloy is astroloy for smelting purposes.

Has anyone else been able to take astroloy reagent mix and convert it to ingots in any way?

[Wazza]

Pls tell us exact quantity of reagents inside your furnace when you trying to smelt astrolloy

[Bryn]

So far I've tried 50g astroloy, 137g astroloy, and 100g of astroloy. I'm just trying to turn it from astroloy in the furnace into actual ingots instead of reagent mix. It's already separated by the centrifuge into pure astroloy.

[Bryn]

OK, just tried to smelt astroloy by combining copper and steel and cobalt and it works perfectly in the same furnace. Tried putting the astroloy reagent mix from the centrifuge back in at the same temp and pressure and it acts like the recipe for astroloy reagent mix is broken, perhaps it's using an old version of the recipe?

[cyberjacques]

Is the reagent mix actually labeled "astroloy"? When you put it in the furnace and look at the furnace window, what ingredients and amounts does it list after the reagent mix is done melting?

[Wazza]

There is something completely wrong, so lets start from wery beginning: Why did you decide that reprocessing hardsuit must give Astrolloy? There is only unnamed reagent mixes in results And as cyberjacques said, the composition can only be determined in the furnace.

[tripodalt]

the centrifuge is meant for separate pure ore and destroy carbon
i dont get how you can output alloy from it

[Bryn]

Originally posted by cyberjacques:

Is the reagent mix actually labeled "astroloy"? When you put it in the furnace and look at the furnace window, what ingredients and amounts does it list after the reagent mix is done melting?

it lists pure astroloy, at whatever how much I put in there. I tried tests at 50g of pure astroloy, 100g of pure astroloy, and 142g of pure astroloy and none would smelt back into ingots. Of course I made sure there was no impurities in the furnace window as the first thing i did months ago when I first encountered this bug.

[Bryn]

Originally posted by Wazza:

There is something completely wrong, so lets start from wery beginning: Why did you decide that reprocessing hardsuit must give Astrolloy? There is only unnamed reagent mixes in results And as cyberjacques said, the composition can only be determined in the furnace.

You seem to be not understanding me as I keep repeating the same thing and you keep asking the same questions. Let me break it down and try to make it more legible sorry.

I didn't decide anything. I used the scientific method to deduce that putting hardsuits into the recycler returns a reagent mix containing astroloy. I checked the stationpedia to verify hardsuits do indeed require astroloy to create so they should indeed output some from the recycler.

So you take this output from the recycler and put it into the centrifuge to sepereate the various mixes, you see? This leaves you with various separated mixes like 10g of iron, 5g of steel, etc all pop out of the centrifuge, you can then take these and put them into a furnace to turn them back into ingots. However when your astroloy comes out of the centrifuge purified that is it, you now have a astroloy reagent mix that is absolutely worthless and impossible to refine back into ingots regardless of pressure temperature it just sits in the advanced furnace and does nothing except take up space. Astroloy smelts fine in the same furnace at the same temp and pressure if I use copper steel and whatever in the right quantities it forms ingots as intended but the reagent mix is bugged and cannot be converted back to ingots from reagent mix.

[Bryn]

Originally posted by tripodalt:

the centrifuge is meant for separate pure ore and destroy carbon
i dont get how you can output alloy from it

the centrifuge is meant to sepereate pure ores from each other. if it destroys carbon i wouldn't know as I've never put anything containing carbon into the centrifuge. it outputs alloy if you put a reagent mix containing alloy, say steel, into the recycler and then into the centrifuge you get a steel reagent mix, same is true for any other alloys you put in there it doesnt break the alloys down they stay alloys.

[Wazza]

Originally posted by Bryn:

I didn't decide anything. I used the scientific method to deduce that putting hardsuits into the recycler returns a reagent mix containing astroloy. I checked the stationpedia to verify hardsuits do indeed require astroloy to create so they should indeed output some from the recycler.

Sorry man, but your guess failed completelly :)
And I should repeat this: the composition of "reagent mix" can only be determined in the furnace. This means that when you put the "reagent mix" into the furnace and heat it up, on its interface you will be able to see what the mixture actually consists of, and suddenly there is no astroloy at all xD
So the bug is not with a furnace, but with a hardsuit itself - hope devs just forget to add some astrolloy to recycling process

[Bryn]

Originally posted by Wazza:

Sorry man, but your guess failed completelly :)
And I should repeat this: the composition of "reagent mix" can only be determined in the furnace. This means that when you put the "reagent mix" into the furnace and heat it up, on its interface you will be able to see what the mixture actually consists of, and suddenly there is no astroloy at all xD
So the bug is not with a furnace, but with a hardsuit itself - hope devs just forget to add some astrolloy to recycling process

Yes, when you put the mix into the furnace it tells you what it is. It says it is pure astroloy in the furnace.

Why do you think suddenly there is no astroloy at all? There has always been astroloy. There has never NOT been astroloy. I have never had a trouble putting things in the furnace to see what the mix is.

The centrifuge is made to separate mixes. It works fine. There is no problem with the reagent mix.

The bug is that the pure astroloy cannot be printed by a advanced furnace.

Again easy steps to reproduce bug: Take hardsuit off put into recycler, put recycler output into centrifuge, take pure astroloy out of centrifuge and put into advanced furnace.

You will be unable to do anything with the astroloy at this point, because probably a bug in the way the astroloy reagent mix is handled seems to prevent it from using the recipe to turn it back into ingots.

Also the bug isn't with the hardsuits as you said, any item that contains astroloy, for instance when I buy hardened solar panels from the trader and put them into the recycler, also cannot be smelted back into ingots. So it's rather independent of the hardsuits as far as I can tell unless the hardsuit astroloy somehow contaminates all the other astroloy.