Station batteries not working in parallel

[Zothen]

The station batteries arent working properly when linked in parallel for input. (tested in Singleplayer, but also saw it in MP a day ago.)

The setup below was working for a while.
Then the 2nd battery just shut off and I couldnt turn it on again.
Only after I shut off the battery on the right I could turn on the left and then the right.
Left battery shut down a short while later.
Tried replacing - no dice.

http://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1236882626

[Zothen]

Is there a chance that multiple batteries shut down because 1 is still loading? (cant generate enough power to test..)

[Zea]

Hi Zothen, try to use transformers to load balance batteries!

Good luck

[Dinoabunai]

Yes, transformers will do that.

[Zothen]

Ok, but where and how do you apply them? In front of each battery? Or one? Two?

[Dinoabunai]

Generator -> Transformer 1 -> Battery 1
Generator -> Transformer 2 -> Battery 2

[Zothen]

Originally posted by Dinoabunai:

Generator -> Transformer 1 -> Battery 1
Generator -> Transformer 2 -> Battery 2

Its not working properly. I tried with 1 lrg transformer first. The panels feed into an APC, which feeds into the transformer. The transformer doesnt stay powered when I set the output higher than provided input. It sucks the APC dry and no matter how long I wait the battery is no longer building up stored current, nor does the transformer activate again. 100% loss from that point.

With a dynamic input from solars the only way to run transformers infront of batteries is to set them significantly below the power level you generate, resulting in a huge loss of power.
Once a lower power is provided than the generators are set to they flat out and dont re-power.
Sucks.

[Dinoabunai]

Eeerm....
-Don't use APC before transformers, or they will dy the APC.
-Don't use large transformers with solars - power output is too low for large transformers.
-Why do you need 2 batteries if you can barely charge up 2 of them in this setup? I don't think it's even possible IRL.

[Zothen]

I use 2 solar fields using normal coil separated by 2 APCs with a peak output of ~5.8k watts.
It felt pretty stupid to wire the whole fields with heavy coil when I can keep them separated. Didnt expect that transformers work so idiotic. =/
The lrg transformer was a test, but the same problem applies when using small ones.

[andreykl]

Also batteries don't work sucsessively, only output battery is charging.

Same issue with tranformers, they eihter end up to vanish everyhting below threir setting or not feeding battery enough (it is unreasonable to put multiple various voltage tranformers before batteries just to make batteries use energy efficiently and charge).

I ended up doing:

Solars -> Power Control 1 -> Battery 1
Solars -> Power Control 2 -> Battery 2
Modified my solar control computer's 'program' to toggle input APCs each time it moves solars so this way batteries are always outputing when they need to yet charge relatively equally.

P.S. I did't want to separate solars per batteries since this would have meant setting up second computer for control... probably can do so now since solar control can be separated. But the problem stands - batteries don't work as they should.

[andreykl]

You probably can place two batteries sucsessively and transformer in between, transformer set to half the output of your solars.
But I suspect that even if it will mannage to charge you batteries, input battery will end up drained at night even without consumers for output battery. batteries seems to vanish everything they can't store.

[Dinoabunai]

Originally posted by andreykl:

But the problem stands - batteries don't work as they should.

How do you think batteries should work?

[Zothen]

Originally posted by Dinoabunai:

Originally posted by andreykl:

But the problem stands - batteries don't work as they should.

How do you think batteries should work?

I would say roughly the same as ACPs. APCs vs. station batteries is inconsistent.

[Zothen]

I honestly didnt expect this:
https://images-ext-2.discordapp.net/external/RLu_WXRXRXDzHxCoO8oVi2e6VhboGIXUCQpKXLeiP_o/https/i.imgur.com/eZosFxGr.jpg?width=744&height=469

[Zmurf]

Thanks

[andreykl]

Originally posted by Dinoabunai:

How do you think batteries should work?

Either like normal batteries(accumulators) wotk in real life: charge and discharge simultaneously.
Or like some 'charging' devices work in real life: if you connect two power banks (high quality ones) one after another, one will be charged first, then second. (heavily depends onto quality and electronics - some has 'pass through', other don't. Some can charge/convert even from minimal power, other require stable input... unfortunately my experience with these devices is limited)
Alternatively for both not to work at all (two cheap UPS of same power will definetely malfunction, both)

Batteries in Stationeers are of 'smart' and 'pass throug' kind since they can charge themself from whatever is not consumed and will let throug everything if other end is consuming everything. So seeing energy simply vanish when there is uncharged battery on the line is definetely a bug.
When we have two sucsessive batteries second one consumes everything even if full.

P.S. Personally I prefer simultaneous charging.