Pipe heater (gas) does not work

[Silver_And]

Hello. Situation:
Mars, have a furnace, insulated tank with H2 (hydrogen), pipes, pipe heater. Pressure in tank amount 3 MPa, temperature - 25C. Want to create a hydrocarbon.
Pipes goes to the furnace, and pipe heater connected to the pipes and network. The green led is ok, but temperature of gas is not rise.
This is what is tried:
1. Isolated generator and connect with the power cables.
2. Pump for gas for increase power of flow.
3. Connect AND power AND data for pipe heater (dont know why).
What I do wrong? Thanks for the answer.

[Secure by Design]

im on older game version but ...
is pipe heater glowing when on? and w/ that many of gas use valve to separate tank from pipe w/ heaters, use degased coal
build furnace into 1x1x1 room, and fill w/ gas otherwise its losing very quickly heat

[Silver_And]

Hi. Thanks for your reply. Yes, pipe heater glowing. Anyway, the main problem is that the gas is not starting to heat at all. Yes, furnace is blazing, but next I must filtering H2. And there are 2 problem: a) is too little of H2 in furnace; b) temp after filtering decreasing very quick.
I think that the easily and fast way to create a hydrocarbon is heat the gas. BUT the HEATER is not working, damn it!)))

[God, owner of the Universe]

Maybe the pipe heater is too weak against the constant heat loss? Or did you measure the furnace instead of the pipe where the heater is on? Because maybe the furnace just does not take in the heated gas, so you would have to measure the pipe that you are heating. Just as a possibility. Trying to narrow down the problem.

For hydrocarbon ingot production, I heard that people generally use 2 furnaces: The first one creates the HOT gas, the second only gets pure stuff so the production works at all.

[Secure by Design]

use more then one pipe heater, use arc furnace for degasing, use hvy cables
but the most important thing is to close the furnace in an airtight room
create 10 pieces long pipe w/ 5-10 pipe heaters separated by valve from tank,
when heating close valve, if thats dosnt work then smthing is fishy

[Silver_And]

Originally posted by God, owner of the Universe:

Maybe the pipe heater is too weak against the constant heat loss? Or did you measure the furnace instead of the pipe where the heater is on? Because maybe the furnace just does not take in the heated gas, so you would have to measure the pipe that you are heating. Just as a possibility. Trying to narrow down the problem.

For hydrocarbon ingot production, I heard that people generally use 2 furnaces: The first one creates the HOT gas, the second only gets pure stuff so the production works at all.

Maybe yes, I don`t thing about that. A will try to use more than one pipe heater, thanks.
And no, I measure correctly the pipe, not furnace. For example, I measure the pipe before heater - 90 degrees, and after - 90 degrees.
About two furnaces... ok, but how can I use a heated gas in "clear" furnace? It has H2, O2, N, X and other things.

Originally posted by Secure by Design:

use more then one pipe heater, use arc furnace for degasing, use hvy cables
but the most important thing is to close the furnace in an airtight room
create 10 pieces long pipe w/ 5-10 pipe heaters separated by valve from tank,
when heating close valve, if thats dosnt work then smthing is fishy

I`m use heavy cables, this is 0 result. In the next time I will try to use a many heaters. And thank you for the tactics with airtight room. I will try.

[God, owner of the Universe]

Originally posted by Silver_And:

About two furnaces... ok, but how can I use a heated gas in "clear" furnace? It has H2, O2, N, X and other things.

Filtration unit doesn't care about heat as long as it's *gas* you're pumping.

[JeanDeaux]

Pipe heaters are terribly slow for changing gas temperatures, they perform better at maintaining a temperature when the outside temperature is cooler. A much better way would be to use a heat exchanger for rapid heating/cooling of a gas or liquid than a pipe heater.

[neo6874]

Originally posted by Silver_And:

Hello. Situation:
Mars, have a furnace, insulated tank with H2 (hydrogen), pipes, pipe heater. Pressure in tank amount 3 MPa, temperature - 25C. Want to create a hydrocarbon.
Pipes goes to the furnace, and pipe heater connected to the pipes and network. The green led is ok, but temperature of gas is not rise.
This is what is tried:
1. Isolated generator and connect with the power cables.
2. Pump for gas for increase power of flow.
3. Connect AND power AND data for pipe heater (dont know why).
What I do wrong? Thanks for the answer.

Were's your oxygen for combustion? Also, bear in mind that a "Pipe Heater" will not give you a controlled ignition of a gaseous fuel (now, it *will* give you an uncontrolled ignition of superfule)

1. Ice -- 2x Volatiles + 1x Oxite. Click the igniter button (red square) to get the ice to melt and open the loading hatch again.

2. Fuel Gas (safer mix) 67% volatiles / 33% oxygen (like what comes in that orange fuel tank you land with). Mix the gasses with a fuel mixer valve.

3. Superfuel -- 50/50 volatiles & Nitrous Oxide. Will self-ignite at about 50 degrees C, for ease of removing pesky walls, frames, or other facilities.

Also note that "Hydrocarbons" is not an item, but rather just a reagent element to mix in with iron to make steel (that is, you won't get a brick of "Hydrocarbon" just by throwing coal into a furnace).

[Secure by Design]

LOL wtf u talkin about? ^^ pump hot(~770°C) 50 mol volatiles at more then 1MPa into furnace and give stack of degased coal and u get stack of 50 solid fuel - hydrocarbon, even works in stock furnace

[Silver_And]

Hello everybody.
Thanks for all of you for your advices! It's nice to know that community is a live!)
So I resolve the problem for next easy way:
1. Create a 2 insulated tanks.
2. Connect Ice Crusher to one of the tanks and melted the VOL Ice around 3 kmol.
3. Connect first furnace to this one tank and warm her up. The temp of the insulated tank increase around to 1.2kk.
4. Take a atmosphere (filter) and filt a VOL from first warm tank to a second. The temperature became the same. And connect with the insulated pipes by the way.
5. Profit. Degasing coal in first furnace, connect second tank to the second furnace and turn up the input pump. And harry up, harry up!)
So, what about the damn pipe heaters? I read a many web sites, forums, saw the videos on youtube. And all I knew from they is that you need to install a many many MANY pipe heaters to increase the temperature of your gases. Some of you wrote me here the same things. Thank again and good luck, stationeers.