Can't get air conditioning working

[Highlander0065]

I cant figure out why my aircon setup is not working properly. When active, the pressure and temperature efficiency are good (90% and 145% respectively), but the operational efficiency is between 0 and 1%. The aircon is in heating mode, set to 30C. The room temp is a little above 0C, and the waste pipe temp is around 900C. It seems to me this setup should be heating the room very efficiently, but it's barely doing anything. What is causing such a low operational efficiency?

[God, owner of the Universe]

I can't remember which is which, so I'm gonna guess: Input pipe pressure and/or waste pipe pressure too low.

[royalrollin]

If you just conneted the input and output just with a passiv vent, it´s not working well. You need a pump (or activ vent) at the output or at the input, that should works better.

[powerkek]

Your waste pipe is too hot. "operational temperature efficiency" depends on the absolute temperature of the waste pipe. It drops if the waste pipe gets too hot or too cold. The efficiencies all multiply each other, so if any of them drops to zero the machine does nothing.

[h_LordEC[no-VC]]

Originally posted by powerkek:

Your waste pipe is too hot. "operational temperature efficiency" depends on the absolute temperature of the waste pipe. It drops if the waste pipe gets too hot or too cold. The efficiencies all multiply each other, so if any of them drops to zero the machine does nothing.

This. -50C to 100C is the optimal gas working temperatures to have in the waste pipe.

[Highlander0065]

Originally posted by powerkek:

Your waste pipe is too hot. "operational temperature efficiency" depends on the absolute temperature of the waste pipe. It drops if the waste pipe gets too hot or too cold. The efficiencies all multiply each other, so if any of them drops to zero the machine does nothing.

Ugh, I kinda thought that, but it didn't seem to make sense to me, since I am trying to heat. If I flip it to cool, the temp efficiency drops to 0 (understandably), but I would think I high waste temp would only help with heating. Welp, I guess I will be converting to wall heaters. Thanks!

[God, owner of the Universe]

I always thought the documentation was ill phrased on this one. But am I wrong about this thought? So - is (for example) extremely COLD gas in the waste pipe a problem when you're trying to COOL down a room, because the difference is very large (but in the beneficial direction)? That wouldn't make any sense whatsoever.

[powerkek]

I agree it makes no sense, but that's how it is right now. This difference between input temp and waste temp is handled by "temperature differential efficiency", which does go above 100% if you're trying to cool from a cooler waste pipe, or heat from a hotter one.

[Lu5ck]

He trying to heat the room so in theory, the heat from waste will be transferred to the room. However, I have never tried that so I do not know if it works. In other theory, you could use room as waste to transfer the heat over but you won't be able to regulate that temperature.

If I'm not mistaken, they nerf aircon heating capability a long time ago.

[Delle(DK)]

its been a long time since i played with the aircon.
But im pretty sure that one issue is that there is to little flow / to little gas in the pipe for the aircondition to work.. Some things in the game require that you have to fill something in the pipes before things will work since it require a little presure and x amounto f gas/fluid els they will flash an error.
So the problem could be there is to little presure and gas in your pipe input.

you can try and install an active vent and pump air from your base into the pipe and build up a little presure and see if that help.
Also the aircondition dont have to run all the time.. you can collect gas in tanks and then though the aircon and to another tank that is more efficient than if it run all day vs running for example 5 minutes.

And finaly connect pipes from the tank with the correct temperature to all of your rooms and presure regulators and other things. ( ps. im not sure but remember to install condensators i think its named on your pipe so condensation water can get out els water can build up in the pipe system but im no expert its a long time since i played and they implment new things now and then ).

[gorgofdoom]

Why are you using an AC unit to heat a room when you already have really hot gas? just hook up a radiator to that pipe with a digital valve between it and the rest of the heat system. Control the valve with a reader, writer, memory, math unit, and a gas temp sensor. IC10 can be be more efficient, or you can just set up a computer with logic motherboard.... Any way you might set it up to passively add heat should use less power than an AC unit.