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Seeedaum Dec 16, 2023 @ 12:44am
Ice crusher bugged?
Hey there,
my ice crusher seems bugged.
I can put Ice in but the gas isn't forwarded into the pipe thats attached.
Am I missing something or is there a bug haunting me?
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Ava Dec 16, 2023 @ 12:54am 
Mine also consumes ungodldy amounts of electricity.
Nargon Dec 16, 2023 @ 2:01am 
It's not a bug, it's a new feature. The ice crusher heats the gas/water before it is released into the pipe. You can also adjust the temperature of the internal heater. But I'm not sure how, I haven't tried this new thing yet.
Seeedaum Dec 16, 2023 @ 3:02am 
so its crushing one part is, heating that up and then crush the next part or what?
looking into the data output, I can't see anything to manipulate the heating stuff.
travis_may2002 Dec 16, 2023 @ 5:07am 
Yeah, I have the same problem. I let it go for a while and my bottle filler quits flashing an error. I don't know what the dependent variables are for it to go from the crusher into the pipe network, but it's annoying.
I was sure I was going to die from thirst, but apparently I'm just impatient?
I think this needs fixing or described in some way.
travis_may2002 Dec 16, 2023 @ 5:23am 
Ok, I've poke around and figured it out. There need to be an expansion valve attached to the liquid pipe network. Then, enough volume to support it, i.e.: plenty of gas pipes or utility tanks. Then you can put a condensation valve looped back in to the liquid network. Once I did that properly, my ice crusher outputs immediately.
Seeedaum Dec 16, 2023 @ 6:13am 
uh, that lets me thinking if the other way round could work for oxcite and volatiles...
need to test that later.
Originally posted by travis_may2002:
Ok, I've poke around and figured it out. There need to be an expansion valve attached to the liquid pipe network. Then, enough volume to support it, i.e.: plenty of gas pipes or utility tanks. Then you can put a condensation valve looped back in to the liquid network. Once I did that properly, my ice crusher outputs immediately.

I can't seem to get this to work, I must be doing something wrong.

I have gas pipes to a tank on the top connection, liquid pipes to a tank on the bottom outlet (this worked previously).

Per my understanding of your suggestion I then bridged the gas network down to the liquid with a condensation valve, no problems. When I bridge with an expansion valve up from the liquid network to the gas one, and open it, my gas pipes immediately go under stress and start creaking (I have to close the valve again or they'll burst).

Running the crusher with or without the expansion valve open doesn't seem to do anything... maybe my temps are wrong? They're running about 10c / 283k.
Vader's Apprentice Dec 16, 2023 @ 11:03am 
So experimented a little more. It seems the original setup of a liquid pipe to tank and gas pipe to tank still works as it used to.

The issue was I wasn't patient enough - the ice crusher now needs to heat up to 14c / 287k before it starts sublimating the ice, and then it fills its internal storage before outputting to pipes/tanks.

It still works more or less the same way, it just takes a lot longer before filling connected pipe networks / tanks.

You don't need to add condenser or expansion valves for it to function, though maybe they speed up the process? More testing is needed for that.

I hope this helps.
Last edited by Vader's Apprentice; Dec 16, 2023 @ 11:05am
MrTenneal Dec 16, 2023 @ 11:43am 
I ended up pumping a pump on the gas line and keep the gas output line empty and come back a few moments later. (blew up my base with vol ice after running the ice crusher back to back and didn't let the pressure come down.)

Personally I use to separate liquid lines, one just for water and the other for all other liquid possibilities to avoid putting other liquids into the bottle filler/food water line.
Yascherrica Dec 17, 2023 @ 3:44am 
1. Use separate Ice crusher for water. Keep it clean.
2. Put volume pump on the outlet of the crusher.
3. keep your Ice crusher in a worm atmo so it works faster.

EDIT: You can still use ice crasher with just a simple pipe connection and a bottel filler but it takes some time and like 50 water ice to start filling your bottles (depending on the pipe network length)
Last edited by Yascherrica; Dec 17, 2023 @ 3:46am
Suge Dec 17, 2023 @ 5:24am 
I built a 1x1 chamber out of steel frames. Placed a large powered vent, a wall heater and a gas sensor inside. Ran a chute network down there and scripted the vent to activate when the pressure gets above 200kpa. I threw an entire hard mining pack full of stacks of 50 oxite down the chute in about 10-15 seconds. The chamber got to just under 3 mpa with no damage the the steel frames. The vent sucked all the gas into my filtration network in about 30 seconds. Faster than many ice crushers at a fraction of the power.

I posted the script on the workshop. It's called Melting Chamber. You will need:

-Steel frames
-Steel sheets
-Active or Powered Vent (bigger = faster)
-Gas sensor
-Wall heater
-Basic Chutes
-Pipes
-Cables

Set everything up inside the chamber. You can seal yourself inside to test it if you like. It's a good idea to have a small tank hooked up to your pipes before the gas enters your filtration network to prevent over pressure and bursting pipes.
Last edited by Suge; Dec 17, 2023 @ 7:55am
pX_Nz Apr 11, 2024 @ 4:12am 
Hello - First post for me ever in steam so apologises if I do anything wrong. I've read all the various rules and am trying my best :-).

I've just spent an hour trying to get my ice-crusher that had been working when I played in october working again now. Then I found this thread while searching forums -- I spent an hour because I was convinced I was doing something wrong.

Perhaps I missed it, but I didn't see anything about heating the chamber in stationpedia - again sorry if I did miss it -- after an hour piping and repiping and rebuilding my ice-crusher my attention span was getting short.

This is a fantastic game, but one challenge for me as an intermittent player and a friend I tried to get into it as a new player is the completeness of the in-game documentation as well as on the informal/unofficial wiki.

It would be awesome if when changes are made to a key game mechanic like the ice-crusher, if they could be prioritised to have their docs updated and perhaps even a little one-off-pop-up that appears the first time you build something that has been re-developed and enhanced. I realise updating documentation generally when there are a number of things inflight can be a huge task, so my idea is if there is a list of fundamental game mechanic enabling devices (furnace, crusher, active vent, aircon, etc) - then the community would know that priority was being given to those.

Another example of changes without doc changes is when aircon stopped moving air through it when it reached temperature. So if you had an active-vent on the input then the pipe would eventually blow if code didn't shut down that vent motor. I had large parts of my existing base from a prior save go very wrong with pipes in walls failing where I couldn't see them. I eventually abandoned my 'big-base' to start again once I read in a forum post what had changed.

Thanks again for all the effort that goes into this addictive game, highlight of my day when I see update posts of new features like the shower. Like I said - sorry if I have done something wrong with this post or its wording.
TL;DR: Doc changes will most probably be postponed by a LONG time until things are kinda final, so that writing about them is reliably not a waste of time.



Hey there! I'm an avid reader of RocketWerkz' Stationeers Discord, where they keep saying that the market is really bad for game studios in general. And Stationeers is a very niche game (little revenue) which they keep financing via other projects, and the project team is (I believe) 9 people.

Stationeers is still Early Access, so things are subject to change, e.g. the terrain system will be revamped later this year, giving us much more interesting worlds to build in. The Rover had problems with the current terrain, which is (I believe) why it was removed.

This is an example where one may ask for a Rover to be reimplemented that works, so we can have fun with it. That's probably even technically possible somehow. But once the terrain has been redone, the vehicle stuff would have to be redone also. That's why an imaginary well-off rich game company, in Early Access, would probably just wait until terrain is done before redoing vehicles. But RocketWerkz' Stationeers department is not in such an imaginary situation.

They are forced to ZIP-compress and focus their efforts. This also means that documentation updates (other than logic values and all that, which comes directly from the underlying systems, so it's always up to date) won't happen until it's rather certain that they won't have to do those changes again at some point.

The tutorials (Playable by easily using an older game version via the Steam library.) are another example of this. They can't keep up with system changes, so they broke, and redoing them every time is out of the question, they have already spent almost 300,000 dollars (?NZ$? UD$? Don't know.) on those. Current goal there is to change the tutorials on a more fundamental level so that they become more robust.
powerkek Apr 11, 2024 @ 4:41am 
In general I agree, the in-game Stationpedia is out of date in many places. Portable A/C section still talks about internal gas storage and attaching it to a connector. The new showers have two variants, regular and powered, but they're both shown as using the same amount of power and have no further description. Etc.

But in the case of Ice Crusher...it still does the same thing. Sure it takes more power and works much slower, so it might blow a fuse somewhere or mess up builds that rely on a stable flow of gas. But nothing has fundamentally changed about how you build and use it.
Btw., if the Ice Crusher is being used to get water to drink: You can cheaply do that without the crusher.

Print a kit (Drain) in the Hydraulic Pipe Bender and slap its "Passive Liquid Inlet" on a liquid pipe connected to your Water Bottle Filler. Toss down the water ice - done.

Pollutant can be removed with the Portable Scrubber, which can now reach into the pipe. Alternatively, you can use a One-Way Liquid Valve to make sure whatever comes from the inlet will only be liquids, not gasses (pollutant etc.), but mind that sometimes your atmospheric situation may bring some Pol/Vol/N2O mist which would still get in.
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