Pipe radiators won't radiate?

[Soondead]

Cooling continues to be the one thing in this game I absolutely can't do, no matter how many different ways I try to set things up.

Playing on Mars, using an uninsulated gas pipe outside, N2 at roughly 1MPa and exceeding 90°C, at night. Using a dozen convection radiators work poorly, as expected due to the thin atmosphere, but what I can't understand is that the other kind... a dozen of the hexagonal "pipe radiator" things shows n/a radiated. The pipe shows n/a radiated. It should radiate heat like crazy.... what crucial detail am I missing here??

[Tux]

the 'pipe radiator' cant be on a wall or a floor.
It has to have all sides exposed to the world otherwise it will not work at all.
when its you get it installed that way they work rather quickly.

keep in mind though, they might even cool too fast leaving your gases in phase, but first things first

[Soondead]

Originally posted by Tux:

the 'pipe radiator' cant be on a wall or a floor.
It has to have all sides exposed to the world otherwise it will not work at all.
when its you get it installed that way they work rather quickly.

keep in mind though, they might even cool too fast leaving your gases in phase, but first things first

They're not on a wall or floor though, I have built a free standing pipe network with "arms" that all have radiators on them. Nope. n/a radiated. I don't get it. There's zero liquid and zero ice.

[Tux]

Originally posted by Soondead:

Originally posted by Tux:

the 'pipe radiator' cant be on a wall or a floor.
It has to have all sides exposed to the world otherwise it will not work at all.
when its you get it installed that way they work rather quickly.

keep in mind though, they might even cool too fast leaving your gases in phase, but first things first

They're not on a wall or floor though, I have built a free standing pipe network with "arms" that all have radiators on them. Nope. n/a radiated. I don't get it. There's zero liquid and zero ice.

yeah I would think that should work.
I havent played Mars but for moon they work well.
That said, even on mars the convection ones should work as well anyway. Maybe the source gas is getting hot from where its being fed into. Or maybe the sun during the day.
I dont know to be straight

[Soondead]

If it was low, I'd be looking for ways to make it more efficient, like adding more radiators, trying a different gas or whatever. But it's n/a, meaning it doesn't work at all. Very frustrating, as you can imagine.

[Tux]

Originally posted by Soondead:

If it was low, I'd be looking for ways to make it more efficient, like adding more radiators, trying a different gas or whatever. But it's n/a, meaning it doesn't work at all. Very frustrating, as you can imagine.

ah yes, by bad, good point and yes that would be frustating

[LostME]

In the Cowsarevil video, they also do not radiate on Mars, only the medium ones radiate. The video also shows that convection works better on Mars.

[daddelpapi]

Hello,

Build a ring of pipes on the roof or wall of your building. Once around a window. With the yellow gas pipes. The corners and couplings but with insulated pipes (orange) pipes fill with pure POL gas. One or two wall fans in the room.
In the middle another volume pump.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3021664099

[ulzgoroth]

They should still work on worlds with atmosphere, but it's possible that they don't...

[Soondead]

Switching to medium ones did indeed work, and to my surprise convection ones work better on Mars than radiation ones. The small ones must simply be bugged.

[ulzgoroth]

FWIW the small radiators do work on the Moon, so it seems to be an atmosphere-related issue.

[♥ Rinni ♥]

On Mars I had to create a vacuum sealed room with a vacuum to atmosphere airlock, inside the vacuum room is a bunch "Radiation Radiators" on the pipe inside the room, then all the radiators in the rooms I want to cool need to be "Convection Radiators".

This causes the rooms to balance temp with the pipe, while the pipe side in the freezer room lowers the temperature of the gas in the pipe.

You can add in digital valves to toggle the room and connect it with a gas sensor to keep rooms at specific temperatures.

[ulzgoroth]

Originally posted by -Rinni-:

On Mars I had to create a vacuum sealed room with a vacuum to atmosphere airlock, inside the vacuum room is a bunch "Radiation Radiators" on the pipe inside the room, then all the radiators in the rooms I want to cool need to be "Convection Radiators".

Hopefully needless to say, that should so very much not work!

[Tux]

Originally posted by Chronos:

Hello,

Build a ring of pipes on the roof or wall of your building. Once around a window. With the yellow gas pipes. The corners and couplings but with insulated pipes (orange) pipes fill with pure POL gas. One or two wall fans in the room.
In the middle another volume pump.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3021664099

I am not sure about mars.
but unless I am missing some details, given the new phase update on the moon that would be catastrophic. Pol very easily phases.

[ulzgoroth]

Originally posted by Tux:

Originally posted by Chronos:

Hello,

Build a ring of pipes on the roof or wall of your building. Once around a window. With the yellow gas pipes. The corners and couplings but with insulated pipes (orange) pipes fill with pure POL gas. One or two wall fans in the room.
In the middle another volume pump.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3021664099

I am not sure about mars.
but unless I am missing some details, given the new phase update on the moon that would be catastrophic. Pol very easily phases.

Depends how much, if the total quantity in the pipe is low enough it will stay gas until it freezes.

But if compressed, yes. Also the freezing point is low enough to be useful but high enough to be a concern.

[♥ Rinni ♥]

Hopefully needless to say, that should so very much not work!

Wiki:
"Radiation Radiators add radiator sheets around the pipe, radiating the heat even into a vacuum . As they only radiate and don't capture, they can only be used to cool down the piped gasses and they do so at a much slower rate. This is the only viable method (apart from the Kit (Liquid Radiator)) of shedding excess heat without venting gasses or otherwise sacrificing resources."

Would like to explain why you think it will not work?