Isolate Furnace Heat after the new Patch

[Fog]

Hello Stationeers, has anyone found a new solution to not losing the heat from the Furnaces after the latest patch?

I created my furnace setup using the idea from the Cows are Evil. I use the same solution putting inside a frame, with a furnace heating a heated tank, and use it on the Adv. Furnace. But I created my own script and pipe structure, the rest is still the same.

But now my Furnace can produce little thing greater than 1.800K of Gas Temperature, but when getting to the tank already lost a small percent of it. This made the creation of Stellite impossible.

[Aracron]

Have you tried putting the entire thing in an enclosed room?

[aaron]

they basically did this on purpose just so you cant cheese the furnace.
my simple automated furnace script still works using a o2/h2 mix.

[Rattlehead]

I'd recommend just increasing the target temperature of your hot side supply tank to compensate. Of course, if you're not using insulated pipes and tanks, you'll likely want to change those out for insulated plumbing too.

I have a similar setup to yours, the advanced furnace setup like CAE did, but my own code driving things. My target temp for the hot side was a bit higher than what he used and the new update doesn't seem to have caused a problem using the furnace.

It's in a non-pressurized room on the moon, as well, so the lost heat isn't a problem, which is another thing to consider if the furnace is in your livable areas.

Also worth mentioning that you do still get a fair amount of insulation from having the furnace inside a frame. Just not perfect insulation like before.

Edit to add: I haven't tried making stellite since the update. But the heat loss seems to be manageable. Might give it a go to make sure, but I think just having the hot supply be a bit hotter might do the trick.

[Graf Schokola]

I use pre heated gas (1950K) and the maximun amount of temp in my furnace is 1550K. - Very unfunney. So i think i have to increase the preheat to 2300K+.

[thelonewolfling]

Originally posted by Rattlehead:

Also worth mentioning that you do still get a fair amount of insulation from having the furnace inside a frame.

This is misleading. Yes, it's a fair amount of insulation, but to the world not to the surroundings. This can result in massively increased heat transfer when putting something inside a 'sealed' frame, and other equally silly behaviour, depending on which world you're playing on.

(For instance: I have a 25C pipe at the center of a large 25C room, and everything remains pretty much stable. I surround it in a frame... and suddenly its temperature starts changing. Even though it's surrounded on all sides by 25C air.)

[Graf Schokola]

My furnace is cooling at the same KJ. Encased, not encased, in vacuum, not in vacuum doesnt matter.

[Rattlehead]

A minor update: Just tested mine and confirmed that I am still able to make Stellite. Hot side supply gas is at around 1850 C. Target temp for hot side is 2200 K in my code. That said, when I set the temp for the furnace target I aimed for 2000 K, so a bit over the minimum for Stellite. Hitting the pressure was easy, and wanted to make sure I hit the temp minimum easily as well.

The code is unchanged from before the Thermodynamics update, but I had set the hot side a bit high to make sure I had enough heat available to get to temp quickly.

[pacifica.stef]

A way to "insulate" the furnace is to put it into a cube made with walls (not a frame) and keep the pressure inside the cube around 80-100kP at the same temperature as the gas inside the furnace.

[Fog]

Originally posted by Rattlehead:

I'd recommend just increasing the target My target temp for the hot side was a bit higher than what he used and the new update doesn't seem to have caused a problem using the furnace.

What is the mixing percentage that you are using? Because mine was in 1/3 O2/H2 and the temp I get in the furnace for the hot tank was near 1.8kk

And my pipes are insulated, even that is was already in a frame before the update. I only used simple pipes in places I want to lose temperature, like cold tank refrigeration.

[Fog]

Originally posted by pacifica.stef:

A way to "insulate" the furnace is to put it into a cube made with walls (not a frame) and keep the pressure inside the cube around 80-100kP at the same temperature as the gas inside the furnace.

I try this with composite wall, and start to burn!

[Rattlehead]

I'm using H2/O2 at 66/34 percentages. Pre-mixing the fuel and storing it in a tank for feeding the system. That goes into a basic furnace inside the wall for ignition and turbo pumped into the hot side storage tank from there.

If your fuel ratio is actually 1:3, that might be the problem. Needs to be 1:2; O2:H2.

Edit to add: If using the mixer, do make sure you equalize the temperatures between the O2 and H2 prior to mixing. If they're not the same temp, the mixer can screw up the ratio, I think.

My mixing system build is detailed here:
https://youtu.be/v4aUr0m0vKU

There are timestamps in the timeline so you can jump to relevant areas.

[thelonewolfling]

Originally posted by Fog:

Originally posted by pacifica.stef:

A way to "insulate" the furnace is to put it into a cube made with walls (not a frame) and keep the pressure inside the cube around 80-100kP at the same temperature as the gas inside the furnace.

I try this with composite wall, and start to burn!

Make sure the atmosphere inside the cube is non-flammable.

[5$ Lewdboxes]

All this can't be right. I encased an advanced furnace in solid surfaces, filled with vacuum (original setup), 2kpa, 100kpa. The heat just... disappears.

I would have expected the medium pressure setup to radiate through the glass and cook me in the foundry room, but the room temperature barely changed before the furnace temperature sank down to 30 degrees celsius.

At the same time, I still have 4000 degrees hot gas in an insulated tank from before the update.

[HydrO]

Originally posted by pacifica.stef:

A way to "insulate" the furnace is to put it into a cube made with walls (not a frame) and keep the pressure inside the cube around 80-100kP at the same temperature as the gas inside the furnace.

this doesn't work, it still losses tempeature and it seems worse than when its in vacuum , the temperature loss is not that bad, its ok for smelting but you cannot just leave the furnance with gases and go do something else expecting to continue smelting later with the same gases anymore.

[Shawn]

Originally posted by HydrO:

Originally posted by pacifica.stef:

A way to "insulate" the furnace is to put it into a cube made with walls (not a frame) and keep the pressure inside the cube around 80-100kP at the same temperature as the gas inside the furnace.

this doesn't work, it still losses tempeature and it seems worse than when its in vacuum , the temperature loss is not that bad, its ok for smelting but you cannot just leave the furnance with gases and go do something else expecting to continue smelting later with the same gases anymore.

I think that is the whole point.