water bottle refill

[swarthout77]

wow this is getting on my nerves, i tried many times and keep deleting games over and over again. cause no matter how many times i change the pipes or inside to outside of base, water bottles will not refill. is there a bug messing it up and if so do i just uninstall to reinstall to fix it?

[Rocket]

Sorry for the bugs!

Water bottle refiller requires water 0-100 degrees C, but a bug on main branch was causing water to be crushed in the ice crusher extremely cold. So you have to warm it up. This has been fixed and changed on the beta branch (can access with "therewillbebugs"). This will be deployed to main branch tomorrow (we are testing it).

[MiB]

How exactly we can heat it up? Pipe radiator heated internal atmosphere up to 80C with 45-50kPa pressure but it did nothing to crushed ice and as such I have no water

[skunkmonkey]

Some options:
1. have a room that's between 1-99 C and then just put a radiator on the pipe so that it balances temperature with the room (slowest option)
2. use a pipe heater (faster option)

Note that water takes a while to adjust temperature. Watch it with your tablet on atmospheric and you should see it changing by 0.1 C every several seconds or so under the conditions you described.

Also note you can add more pipe radiators for faster normalizing of temperature. Rotating the radiators 90 degrees from the previous one (as long as there is open space) will maximize distribution through the world grid

[ZeroTheHero]

Originally posted by Rocket:

Sorry for the bugs!

Water bottle refiller requires water 0-100 degrees C, but a bug on main branch was causing water to be crushed in the ice crusher extremely cold. So you have to warm it up. This has been fixed and changed on the beta branch (can access with "therewillbebugs"). This will be deployed to main branch tomorrow (we are testing it).

I thought the warming of the water was a new feature :-)

[GMC]

Originally posted by MiB:

How exactly we can heat it up?

A liquid pipe heater is the simplest solution. Although you can save some electricity by using a heat exchanger or radiators. You get plenty of waste heat from smelting, so you can re-use that to heat up water.

Also, water needs to be above 5°C for farming.

If it's being changed so the ice crusher heats up the water, all of that may be unnecessary (although, if you're storing water in a non-insulated tank on the lunar surface, it will lose heat via radiation).

[JeanDeaux]

Here a screen shot I took recently of an early setup using a heat exchanger connected to the furnace and an insulated water tank system to get the initial water going on Europa.
https://steamuserimages-a.akamaihd.net/ugc/1835792762103552104/59D53EAFE71DC0716D4AA90BAFA44BB1107D0E9D/?imw=5000&imh=5000&ima=fit&impolicy=Letterbox&imcolor=%23000000&letterbox=false

[MiB]

I hope I managed to solve this problem with gas pipe radiator and liquid radiator in same room close to each other. At least I filled 4 bottles with water and won't die thirsty :)

UPD.: room temperature is still way above 80C (in fact sometimes it can reach 120C)

[JeanDeaux]

You'll want to get that room temp down in order to grow anything, I try to keep it between 20 and 25 Celsius. At that temperature the fuel in your gas welder has probably flash ignited and won't work anymore, lucky hasn't blown up on you. Might want to put an atmospheric analyzer on that fuel tank to see if it's still usable. And do it outside in cooler temps, in case you're lucky enough to have not ignited yet. I believe that 30C was the magic number where fuel cans start making strange noises.

[MiB]

Didn't use gas welder indoor... and now I won't :) Currently it seems easier to keep this particular room as some kind of heat exchanged and build another one for farming

[JeanDeaux]

You don't have to use the welder for it to become too hot in the room you are in and cause the fuel to ignite. If your fuel is still in good condition, count yourself lucky.

[swarthout77]

ok i got it finally right on the edge of a red light thirst lol, now to focus on food before starvation lol

[LittleShade]

The Water Bottle Filler has been changed to operate only when power is connected.

[=[ XITRIJ ]=]

i can't seem to rotate the bottle filler vertically when placing, comes up with red error text string "keynotfoundexception" when I press C, also it flashes yellow and wont fill up the bottle when everything is connected, what am I doing wrong?

[JeanDeaux]

Originally posted by = XITRIJ =:

i can't seem to rotate the bottle filler vertically when placing, comes up with red error text string "keynotfoundexception" when I press C, also it flashes yellow and wont fill up the bottle when everything is connected, what am I doing wrong?

New bug, use your Insert/Home/PgUp, etc keys to rotate for now.

[=[ XITRIJ ]=]

Originally posted by jeandeaux:

Originally posted by = XITRIJ =:

i can't seem to rotate the bottle filler vertically when placing, comes up with red error text string "keynotfoundexception" when I press C, also it flashes yellow and wont fill up the bottle when everything is connected, what am I doing wrong?

New bug, use your Insert/Home/PgUp, etc keys to rotate for now.

I've run integrity check of the game files, then loaded the save file again and the water bottle filler was gone lol, had to build another one and it let me place it the right way up this time, but still comes up with the error and won't fill. That's due to water temp update I'm guessing, so will need to move everything inside.