Water and Water/Ice

[Grimm Spector]

There seems to be no way to harvest water from your Stationeer and the food consumed, so you always need more water. Once you exhaust all reasonably close deposits of water ice, how do you get water?

[Whiplash]

H2 combustor can be used to create water from hydrogen and oxygen. Hydrogen can be obtained from red (volatile) ices, or even directly from the atmosphere on some planets (Vulcan). Oxygen can be gathered from blue (oxite) ices. If those do not exist, another option is a greenhouse to produce the oxygen.

The H2 combustor is created from an atmospheric kit. Be careful, the process can be dangerous if the mix and temperature are wrong. Best to try to keep the ratio very very lobsided and not let it get too hot.

[Grimm Spector]

Originally posted by Whiplash:

H2 combustor can be used to create water from hydrogen and oxygen. Hydrogen can be obtained from red (volatile) ices, or even directly from the atmosphere on some planets (Vulcan). Oxygen can be gathered from blue (oxite) ices. If those do not exist, another option is a greenhouse to produce the oxygen.

The H2 combustor is created from an atmospheric kit. Be careful, the process can be dangerous if the mix and temperature are wrong.

Greenhouse to produce oxygen takes water, but I suppose would work. But what about when I run out of sources of volaties and oxites? Same issue with ice.

I'll look into the combustor, thanks.

[Graf Schokola]

2 othter ways:

1. Buy H2 / O2 from trader and combust it (dont buy water)

2. build a mining rocket

(3. use the commando console)

[Grimm Spector]

Originally posted by Graf Schokola:

2 othter ways:

1. Buy H2 / O2 from trader and combust it (dont buy water)

2. build a mining rocket

(3. use the commando console)

Hmm for 1 and 2 I'll have to be fairly far along the tech tree I suspect, but I'll investigate those. I've never gotten that far. Thanks!

[Lim Dul]

You are not running out of ice before running out of ideas of what you can do in the game. There is more than enough ice out there.

[Zefnoly]

To be fair water should not magically vanish. There should be ways to recycle it in my opinion. Ive tried to make suggestions in the past to a new "hygiene" meter that slowly increase as you drink and eat. Having it full wont do any "emediate" harm to your character. And would be emptied in a big all in one bunk bathroom module that would output waste water that can be filtered into water in an own filtration machine. Allowing return of water spent.

It is kinda silly there is no way to get water back from this process. Even ONI has this figured out.

[hektor]

Originally posted by Whiplash:

H2 combustor can be used to create water from hydrogen and oxygen. Hydrogen can be obtained from red (volatile) ices, or even directly from the atmosphere on some planets (Vulcan). Oxygen can be gathered from blue (oxite) ices. If those do not exist, another option is a greenhouse to produce the oxygen.

The H2 combustor is created from an atmospheric kit. Be careful, the process can be dangerous if the mix and temperature are wrong. Best to try to keep the ratio very very lobsided and not let it get too hot.

Mark this as answered.

[Nightwolf]

stationeers doth not pee

[Grimm Spector]

Apparently ... just blow up with water like a ballooon ...

[Delle(DK)]

It can sometimes be hard to find a specific resource.
I highly recommend the ground penetrating radar and the advanced motherboard for your pda so you can see what is below ground in colour.
There is often larger clusters of resources below ground than on the top of the planet.

And ofcourse trading for resources to get what you have problems finding.

[Grimm Spector]

Originally posted by Delle(DK):

It can sometimes be hard to find a specific resource.
I highly recommend the ground penetrating radar and the advanced motherboard for your pda so you can see what is below ground in colour.
There is often larger clusters of resources below ground than on the top of the planet.

And ofcourse trading for resources to get what you have problems finding.

Yeah but that chip requires some of the more rare materials to make lol

[Harbingerman]

This is why I am not playing Stationeers again well for a little while I may get back into it for the challenge of custom worlds ... thing is we might just as well set the food and hydration down to 1 ... I have tried at 3 and 4 its just rediculous ... I want to play a SIM not run around like a chicken with no marbles I just cant do it anymore ... The SIM allows those starter foods I cant remember I had to add them in in a mod or something I forget at the start because I wanted ALL my seeds harr ... well I mean really ... this Naut is gonna have all his supplies on startup ... Stationeers is one of the best Space SIMS out there ... It is different. There is only one major problem ... finite resources.

I never figured out a way to see if other gases will be formed with certain plants and I gave the devs my MOD for space survival; it is the only realistic way to survive in space: REYCLE and Gas harvesting by the use of plants; special plants !

The O2 creation by plants is too little for a game start and I havnt a clue exactly how many plants are required to make a days worth of O2 with half a day to spare or at least 1/3 of a day so as to acrue O2.

I have explained to the DEVS to create other gases and separate the O2 ... ie Methane for Hydrogen and CO2 for Oxygen ... I cant even remember if this SIM splits compounds I have had alot of life problems lately ... maybe I dont want to know as it is a spoiler.

Still it may require hundreds of plants to get the CO2 process going or O2 whatever.

I tried the crusher thing to get water and Oxygen...it is not enough.

I lasted quite awhile with an O2 can that I added to the start but in the end I could not get the required number of plants going...that was with using 3 or 4 on my hydration use.

I suppose we really need to look at O2 use and production ... this would all be solved by growing gases with plants in solution ... hot plants ! Gases must be grown with plants like Methane and some other stinky highly explosive gases in order to survive on a distant world.

On Mars CO2 is there ... on Vulcan we have Hydrogen ... I dont remember if Venus has Hydrogen but has CO2 ... I like to rant ... I chose Vulcan as my world due to the availability of Hydrogen ...

I guess the other thing I forgot and didnt really even try to do in the game is working with the airlock. Once a working airlock is in the O2 is recycled and maybe the plants then trickle in the other gases over a very long period of time. Just have to have that O2 canister and Vulcan is a cinch. I dont know how you all survive on those other places with no Hydrogen and you cant use the excuse of mining Ices ... they are a finite resource.

[Harbingerman]

Howdi again ... I wsant sure if Stationeers had Mods ... maybe I will try to make the Mod necessary to grow and split the required chemicals but I dont know ... it is basically just using the Recycler I think ... I wanted to use the chem stations but I was not able to make the Mod ... I would really like to see more efficient chemical creation from plants ... the only problem is I would have to model the tanks for growing the stuff I intend to use ... maybe I will try who knows ...

[hektor]

Originally posted by Harbingerman:

Howdi again ... I wsant sure if Stationeers had Mods ... maybe I will try to make the Mod necessary to grow and split the required chemicals but I dont know ... it is basically just using the Recycler I think ... I wanted to use the chem stations but I was not able to make the Mod ... I would really like to see more efficient chemical creation from plants ... the only problem is I would have to model the tanks for growing the stuff I intend to use ... maybe I will try who knows ...

You have made a lot of good points but there is context missing. If you are on Europa you have to figure out how to get rid of O and not set yourself on fire. Mars used to be the easiest to grow plants and filter O back. Maybe that changed.

[Grimm Spector]

A sabatier reactor would be interesting perhaps.

Also the modding capabilities for the game are currently extremely limited.