Questions on liquids

[DeadMechGaming]

So my main questions are, is it only H2O that is liquid? Or is there other liquids now? Like is fuel now a liquid? Can we make gases into a liquid (like a liquid O2 or CO2)? If you pump H20 into a general waste pipe full of other gases to be recycled into your system, what happens to the H2O?

[letaquiner]

Yes. No. No. No. It disappears.

[letaquiner]

Actually, probably more correct for the last answer: you likely can't do it. Liquid -> liquid pipes; gas -> gas pipes and never the twain shall mix.

[DeadMechGaming]

Well that sucks... You'd think they would at least make fuel a liquid now. And that we would be able to make gases into a liquid since it would be able to store more in a smaller space.

[tripodalt]

no mention to solid ice etc at -200celcius it common
so i understand if you drop in furnace both oxy/volatile and water ice
then the diferents pipes act themself as filters
so no need to make extra complexfications
or it desintegrate somes things

[netshaman]

Perhaps in the future they will add cryogenic pump or a device like this to compress gases into cryogenic liquids ( like H2, CH4 or O2 ) like IRL ?
Who knows ?
But imo actually gases tanks are high pressure ones , so i guess gases are liquid into them , but they need gas pipes although.
Irl this is exactly the case, gases liquid or not use gas pipes not liquid ones ;)

[DeadMechGaming]

Originally posted by tripodalt:

no mention to solid ice etc at -200celcius it common
so i understand if you drop in furnace both oxy/volatile and water ice
then the diferents pipes act themself as filters
so no need to make extra complexfications
or it desintegrate somes things

Umm.... what?

[DeadMechGaming]

Originally posted by netshaman:

Perhaps in the future they will add cryogenic pump or a device like this to compress gases into cryogenic liquids ( like H2, CH4 or O2 ) like IRL ?
Who knows ?

I kind of hope they do add something like this. Gases should be able to be turned into liquids for storage and mixing. Real rockets use liquid hydrogen (Volatiles) and liquid oxygen, so it would make sense to have at least those in liquid form.

[tripodalt]

no at all gas is gas a any pressure it just relly on temp to make it liquid or solid
pressure is meusurement of distance when temp is energy
their is no way to have liquid water or gas volatile/oxy at -200celcius
the outerspace non atmo scenario must relly on direct/reflective radiation temperatures where shadows cast are explosives triggers on surface ores
mention to the reaction of welders must be impressive in cold planets
im already in trouble to light on a cigaret at -4celcius nowday and my drone not more fly because battery look empty capacity after full charge

[DeadMechGaming]

Originally posted by tripodalt:

no at all gas is gas a any pressure it just relly on temp to make it liquid or solid
pressure is meusurement of distance when temp is energy
their is no way to have liquid water or gas volatile/oxy at -200celcius
the outerspace non atmo scenario must relly on direct/reflective radiation temperatures where shadows cast are explosives triggers on surface ores
mention to the reaction of welders must be impressive in cold planets

No one said anything about having the gases at -200C.... The only thing said was a question on if only water was liquid or if there was other gases that could be turned into liquid. Also Liquid O2 is -150C and Liquid Hydrogen (aka Volatiles in game since H2 is hydrogen) is -252C, so you're way off there.

The only reason I brought up using liquid forms of the gases for storage is because you can store the liquid form of most gases in a smaller container then you would be able to in their gas forms as their liquid forms are denser (5kg of liquid hydrogen for example can be stored in a 75L tank, while 5kg of hydrogen in gas form needs a 125L tank).

[tripodalt]

volatiles is not at all h2 since with oxyd the result is co2 + poluant
its just molecule of carbon with some other unknow links
this game not feature h2 at all
and since hydrogen is the most light of all atom it made sens it never found it in liquid or solid form in natural environements

but but butt in this game we found oxyde ore on vulcan/venus at +500celcius

your reference with physical reality not make sens in a discussion about puzzle fantasy game mecanics
your reference to state of matter is tricky with complex molecule as water solid take more space than liquid due to crystal arengement

[DeadMechGaming]

Originally posted by tripodalt:

volatiles is not at all h2 since with oxyd the result is co2 + poluant
its just molecule of carbon with some other unknow links
this game not feature h2 at all
and since hydrogen is the most light of all atom it made sens it never found it in liquid or solid form in natural environements

but but butt in this game we found oxyde ore on vulcan/venus at +500celcius

your reference with physical reality not make sens in a discussion about puzzle fantasy game mecanics
your reference to state of matter is tricky with complex molecule as water solid take more space than liquid due to crystal arengement

1. Please use google translate from now on, it's really hard to understand the broken English. I understand English isn't your first language (Guessing French since your profile says you live in France), but that's what using a translator program is there for.

2. What is Volatiles listed as in the atmospheric analyzer? H2. What is H2? Hydrogen. Ergo Volatiles = Hydrogen. What do you get when you put water in the electrolizer? O2 and H2, Oxygen and Hydrogen.

3. You tried to say O2 and Volatiles (which as I've stated before is H2 per the atmospheric analyzer) can't exist at -200C in a liquid state, which wasn't true. You also tried to use your not being able to smoke and your drones batteries dying as an example. So it's okay for you to try to use realistic (which turned out to be false) examples but not for me?

4. As stated before, this thread was simply a question on if Water was the only liquid or not. You are now trying to derail it. Move on.

[tripodalt]

sry im not experimented with the analyser since i played only the tutorial and atempted to survive a game start
tought it was reported to be wrong and remain of the original alpha
what not make sens if you considere the outupt of the combustion
no i not make diferent judgement for you and me because i not atempt more to make comaparaison between real and gamerules
the devs have already answered the question water is liquid and oxy/volatile/poluant/nitrogen are gas forever
oxy/volatile/ice ores are the only material that can change state in a single direction from solid to gas except for ice from solid to liquid
all others items stay solid and never change back except using recycling machine that can output ingots back
translate canot help so much when the original sentence was already broken/messy

[MJRMatthew]

Originally posted by tripodalt:

volatiles is not at all h2 since with oxyd the result is co2 + poluant
its just molecule of carbon with some other unknow links
this game not feature h2 at all
and since hydrogen is the most light of all atom it made sens it never found it in liquid or solid form in natural environements

but but butt in this game we found oxyde ore on vulcan/venus at +500celcius

your reference with physical reality not make sens in a discussion about puzzle fantasy game mecanics
your reference to state of matter is tricky with complex molecule as water solid take more space than liquid due to crystal arengement

Im pretty sure you can't find ice oxite or volatiles on Vulcan or venus

[tripodalt]

let me wonder how to play without oxy and volatiles
filtering atmo maybe?
i was pretty sure than not of all that exist on moon but it do in this game