Storage Tank mol display

[[BTW] Nicj]

Sorry this is my 3rd thread in 30 minutes. Is it possible to display the actual quantity of gas stored is the tanks. Pressure-tick, temp-tick, ratio-tick. QTY in mols? Its probably me being thick and missing the setting.

It shows up with an atmos tablet so it is readable but maybe not implemented as an output of those tanks. The golf ball looking ones.

[Aikahona]

No, not currently possible. Hopefully "real soon now" :-)

[Orici Vintarion]

as far as i understand it mol is the quantity and kPa is the pressure and °C is the temperature idk what other statistic you want

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mole_(unit)

[Orici Vintarion]

In total, there are 55.55 moles of water in 1 L of water.
Here is how you calculate it:
1 mol of water (H20) = 18 g
Mass of 1 L of water = 1000 g
How many times can you fit 18 g packets (moles) into 1000 g?
1000g/18g = 55.55
Here it is - 1 L of water has 55.55 moles of water.

[[BTW] Nicj]

Originally posted by Orici:

as far as i understand it mol is the quantity and kPa is the pressure and °C is the temperature idk what other statistic you want

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mole_(unit)

The statistic I want is quantity. As far as I know storage tanks have no upper pressure limit so the only useful data as of now would be temp and quatity of material stored. But as Maledicto stated, its not possible at present.

Thanks for the help though.

[[BTW] Nicj]

Originally posted by Orici:

In total, there are 55.55 moles of water in 1 L of water.
Here is how you calculate it:
1 mol of water (H20) = 18 g
Mass of 1 L of water = 1000 g
How many times can you fit 18 g packets (moles) into 1000 g?
1000g/18g = 55.55
Here it is - 1 L of water has 55.55 moles of water.

Thanks, that makes my brain hurt a little bit :)

But why is 1 mole of water 18g? Back to school for me I guess.

[Orici Vintarion]

it would be interesting if each element has a different mols like in RL or gases have the same in the game , and i want to know how much Liter a Small Tank can actually hold since my Oxygen tank holds between 900-1050L [- depending on 1 mol 18g (Water) or 24,5( oxygen) -] and 170 Atmospheres of Pressure 16600kPa on -30°C

[KoJak]

I saw your post today and wanted to repy that yes you can read the quantity of gas in a tank. the moles can be read on a tablet in the game and the pipe analyzer but does not show up in the data network. Hum? Here is how I dislay the quantity of gases stored in my tanks.

I took the idea gas formula of " pressure = Moles*gas constant+temp in K / Volume".
Rewrite the equation to "PV = moles * Gas constant* Temp in K.
Rewrite the equation to "PV/ Gas constant * Temp in K = moles.

I used two readers to read the KPA and Temp of the gas in the tank.

1 ) I use a math to multply the KPA by a memory of 6000 (Tank Volume Capacity)
2.) I use a math to mutiply the Temp by the gas constant( 8.314)

I use a math to Divide the 1.) by 2.) wich gives the amount of moles, (verify this by check a analyzer or tablet.

I use a math to divide the moles math by a memory chip set to 12 ( capacity of tanks is 6000 Liters and 72000 moles ( 1 liter = 12 moles))

I use a unary to round num set to floor.

I use a writer to write to a LED display.

I am finishing up a guide shortly and expect to pubish soonn. I hope it clarfies your question " how can I actual quantity of gas in a tank"?

[Remx]

Old but... in real life 1mol = 22,4 liter .
Now i see 15KMOL in my tank K = 1000 in real
then 15000 x 22,4l = 336 000l in small tank WTF ??

[h_LordEC[no-VC]]

Originally posted by Remx:

Old but... in real life 1mol = 22,4 liter .
Now i see 15KMOL in my tank K = 1000 in real
then 15000 x 22,4l = 336 000l in small tank WTF ??

That is assuming the gas is at 0C and 1 atm pressure.

Gas is compressible, so your 15kmols can be easily stored inside the small tank(6000L) because it can handle upto 60Mpa(60000kpa) of pressure (technically limited by the pipes).

1 atm pressure = ~101kpa.
Your "15kmols = 336000L of gas" inside a 6000L small tank should cause the internal pressure to be ~5656kpa or ~5.656Mpa if the gas is at 0C.
336000 / 6000 = 56 atm pressure x 101kpa = 5656kpa or 5.656Mpa

I think my math is correct but feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.

If you really want to dig into the subject I would suggest looking up Avogadro's law.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avogadro%27s_law
PV=nRT
P= pressure
V= volume
n= mol
R= universal gas constant
T = temperature (K)

These links are also pretty helpful to explain the basics of the subject.
https://flexbooks.ck12.org/cbook/ck-12-chemistry-flexbook-2.0/section/10.6/primary/lesson/avogadros-hypothesis-and-molar-volume-chem/
https://www.inspiritvr.com/general-chemistry/states-of-matter/gas-pressure-study-guide

This is part of the reason it takes so long to pump out a tank/pipe network because as the pressure drops, the gas remaining expands which means the pump is moving smaller and smaller amounts of mols.

[ждун]

Originally posted by BTW Nicj:

Is it possible to display the actual quantity of gas stored is the tanks. Pressure-tick, temp-tick, ratio-tick. QTY in mols?

Should be possible with IC script reading the quantity and writing it to LED display.
Also change rates per tick should be possible.

Something like this (not tested)

# Reads mols, pressure, temperature from tank
# writes mols, mol/tick, pres/tick, temp/tick
# to LED displays

# device configuration
alias Tank d0
alias QuantityDisplay d1
alias QtyRateDisplay d2
alias PresRateDisplay d3
alias TempRateDisplay d4

# variables definition
alias Quantity r0
alias Pressure r1
alias Temperature r2
alias QtyRate r3
alias PresRate r4
alias TempRate r5

# main loop
start:
# read values from tank
l Quantity Tank Quantity
l Pressure Tank Pressure
l Temperature Tank Temperature

# get values from last tick from stack
# and calculate rates
pop r10
sub QtyRate Quantity r10
pop r10
sub PresRate Pressure r10
pop r10
sub TempRate Temperature r10

# push current values from current tick to stack
push Temperature
push Pressure
push Quantity

# write results to displays
s QuantityDisplay Setting Quantity
s QtyRateDisplay Setting QtyRate
s PresRateDisplay Setting PresRate
s TempRateDisplay Setting TempRate

yield
j start

note: this script does not check if the displays are actually connected. In case one is missing it would have an error. The program can be improved to make the displays optional and write to them only when they are actually connected.