How to condition air

[Bman1296]

I have an air conditioner hooked up to two passive vents, input and output.

I recycle the waste to input to heat it up further. I think this is probably the issue. However, I have put a pressure regulator on so that the cold waste air cannot go back into the base.

Unfortunately, my temperature never changes. Where should the waste go? I don't want to be pumping cold waste air into the atmosphere as then I lose all my base air.

[Tomlius]

This is a pretty good example: https://stationeers-wiki.com/File:Coolant_Example.png

[Bman1296]

I’m wanting to heat up my room. Solution isn’t to use air conditioners strangely, but wall heaters

[Etsijä]

First rule should be: never use the air conditioner. For anything, really. It is a huge power hog for almost nothing. Use wall heaters (as few as possible of them) for warming, coolant loops for cooling. That's the most power efficient way of doing it.

[DomDiaemus]

If is just one room then that would work if is 4 floor building with different rooms then wall heaters are a bit useless and power waste... in that case use a tank filled with water and "air/coolant" pipes through that water talk, heat the water-tank to the temperature required and radiators on each room... basically a central-heating. If you play in Europa then power is something very valuable and need to be spent very carefully... aircon/multiple power heats wouldn't survive one day unless multiple power sources/backups supply is provided

[the_green_one]

@DomDiaemus
excuse me, but i'm fairly new to the game and a lot of the science involved is new to me. just started dabbling in "air conditioning" and need some more info :D

Originally posted by DomDiaemus:

use a tank filled with water

do you mean a sealed off room and pump it full of water?

Originally posted by DomDiaemus:

"air/coolant" pipes through that water tank

would water in these pipes work, too?
and would i need radiators on these pipes?

Originally posted by DomDiaemus:

heat the water-tank to the temperature required

hm. would wall heaters work under water? ^^
or would i need a second pipe network+radiators in the "water tank" to heat it up?

thanks for helping out a newbie :)

[Bman1296]

Originally posted by the_green_one:

@DomDiaemus
excuse me, but i'm fairly new to the game and a lot of the science involved is new to me. just started dabbling in "air conditioning" and need some more info :D

Originally posted by DomDiaemus:

use a tank filled with water

do you mean a sealed off room and pump it full of water?

Originally posted by DomDiaemus:

"air/coolant" pipes through that water tank

would water in these pipes work, too?
and would i need radiators on these pipes?

Originally posted by DomDiaemus:

heat the water-tank to the temperature required

hm. would wall heaters work under water? ^^
or would i need a second pipe network+radiators in the "water tank" to heat it up?

thanks for helping out a newbie :)

Not sure about wall heaters in water, probably would work though. Water can go through pipes.

Best way to think of it is to simplify it a little: There are arbitrary gasses/liquids called A, B, C and D and although one might be a liquid and one might be a gas, they can all travel the same through pipes and they all influence the physics of the area they are in.

[the_green_one]

thanks for your time buddy!

unfortunately it doesn't help me visualize the concept of a heating chamber for central heating in stationeers any better - i turned it around in my head a dozen times but didn't get to actually test it in game.

that's why i asked very specific questions: these are the missing blanks in my concept. ^^

[Arran Chace]

Originally posted by the_green_one:

thanks for your time buddy!

unfortunately it doesn't help me visualize the concept of a heating chamber for central heating in stationeers any better - i turned it around in my head a dozen times but didn't get to actually test it in game.

that's why i asked very specific questions: these are the missing blanks in my concept. ^^

I think he tried to explain you can use radiant heat as a heating/cooling source, as anything transported through pipes is radiating heat, thus heating its surrounding area, and can be done with gasses as liquids.

Cooled water through pipes will lower the surrounding temprature, near the pipe, and over time the room, same goes with heated gasses (furnace exhaust) will eventually raise the room temp.

You can use this radiant heat/cooling too your advantages,
But i consider this fairly advanced engineering, and certainly not needed on starting level.

Heaters and Coolers are for no best way to deal with warmth, and a pressure system to replenish oxygen/nitrogen atmosphere in the base.

For this i personally use a circulation system that pumps air into one part of the room, and removes with a backvalve the overpressure air on the other side of the room, to keep a constant flow of fresh air in the base, what can be again heated/cooler using radiant heat from other systems

[Bman1296]

Originally posted by the_green_one:

thanks for your time buddy!

unfortunately it doesn't help me visualize the concept of a heating chamber for central heating in stationeers any better - i turned it around in my head a dozen times but didn't get to actually test it in game.

that's why i asked very specific questions: these are the missing blanks in my concept. ^^

So the whole sealed off room thing, I believe he is talking a tank in a room, which has water in it constantly being heated by wall heaters most likely, You don't want radiators as they will cool it down.

[DomDiaemus]

yes two cubes tank sealed as you like (my two 2 cube tanks have them between ground and 1st floor so glassed at bottom and top) you can well try with one 1st, I use two to separate gases so not to affect the base floors heating up N/CO/other things when they come from the furnace and pass through the exterior (Europa) to cool them down.

So a 2 cube tank has one sensor and wall heater which are connected to a temp control circuits and a display which shows the water temp (last one is cosmetics and pointless but hey)...so that keeps the water temp between 20-25C...tanks full of water so up to 95 pressure or you could well have them 100 pressure with back-press regulator set to the pressure in the tank-1 value... that to keep the water flowing between the cube-tanks and the water tank if you want... so that the water in the main tank is kept at reasonable temperature and doesn't go too negative....

The other pipes for other gases/etc go through the tank and each have their radiators (again in the cube water tank) so that would warm up whatever you put in them, again you could well close the circuit of each gas/liquid you put on each pipe.

The more varaiet of pipes you pass through the warm water tank and if the temp of the gas is low negative then it would gradually affect the water tank... temperature radiation is something that is well thought in this game so is fun using it... and yes... the warm water temp does radiate into what goes in those pipes and also versa... if you tank is 25C and you fill up one of those pipes with -200 oxygen then it would gradually cool down the water temp so the wall-heaters do kick if below 20C... and the temp of the oxi in the pipe would go up as well and in time reaches the water temp... so in practical terms you can heat 4 floors base with just one or two wall heaters in a sealed water pool... so avoiding too much electricity waste


As for air-flow... a press-regulator pumps the air mix at 100 press goes through the water tanks to each floor and one back-press reg sucks at 99 press to then be filtered. The filtering only reacts when it detects a type of gas on the pipe over a certain value... so to be kind on the valuable electricity... just wish to understand the new circuits so to minimise the number of circuit pieces so to reduce the eletricity consumption of those filtering circuits