join multiplayer without me port forwarding?

[Griffin]

I can't port forward (on mobile hotspot) so I was wondering if it is possible to join a game without hamachi or at least with ngrok

[bloodshark]

P2P not working at the moment there gives any problems

[Griffin]

what

[Heightmare]

If the connection you're on supports UPNP and that is enabled in the options it should attempt to create the port forwarding rules itself.

[andreykl]

Originally posted by the mega robot cat:

I can't port forward (on mobile hotspot) so I was wondering if it is possible to join a game without hamachi or at least with ngrok

"Port forward" is only needed if you are under NAT (or something similar) AND are hosting your game. You do not need to port forward when you are connecting to someone. As long as game's 'host' has 'exposed' ports, you should be able to connect. Hamachi/forwarding will be needed if ports host side are not exposed and UPNP is disabled.
P.S. VPN and Hamachi should work either way.

[Rivers]

Originally posted by ;1747893292776847743:

Originally posted by the mega robot cat:

I can't port forward (on mobile hotspot) so I was wondering if it is possible to join a game without hamachi or at least with ngrok

"Port forward" is only needed if you are under NAT (or something similar) AND are hosting your game. You do not need to port forward when you are connecting to someone. As long as game's 'host' has 'exposed' ports, you should be able to connect. Hamachi/forwarding will be needed if ports host side are not exposed and UPNP is disabled.
P.S. VPN and Hamachi should work either way.

You can't expose ports on most mobile hotspots, there aren't enough IPv4 addresses to hand them out like candy to every mobile device on the planet, not even close.
And most friggen folks still aren't trying to migrate properly to IPv6 that would allow every device on the planet to have a thousand addresses and not run out for a century still.

[andreykl]

Originally posted by Evito Cruor:

You can't expose ports on most mobile hotspots, there aren't enough IPv4 addresses to hand them out like candy to every mobile device on the planet, not even close.

As I understand it "the mega robot cat" joins from mobile hotspot, not hosts from one. As such it doesn't matter if he can porforward or not.
Operator's and hotspot's NAT will handle it without need for port-forwarding.

P.S. I don't think you are correct either way. Port forwarding is usually done on router to expose ports of a client in router's network to outside network.
And mobile hotspots are technically routers, you can port-forward at some of them. Even if you can't, port forwarding is no way tied to avaliability of dedicated IPv4, if anything it is software (or harware) limit of a device itself.
But even if you do have portforwarding in your hotspot (like MiFi 8000 4G LTE) The problem is that you are usually not only behind your hotspot's NAT, but also behind mobile operator's one. As such exposing ports can be pointles (not always, some do have workarounds).

[Rivers]

Originally posted by andreykl:

Originally posted by Evito Cruor:

You can't expose ports on most mobile hotspots, there aren't enough IPv4 addresses to hand them out like candy to every mobile device on the planet, not even close.

As I understand it "the mega robot cat" joins from mobile hotspot, not hosts from one. As such it doesn't matter if he can porforward or not.
Operator's and hotspot's NAT will handle it without need for port-forwarding.

P.S. I don't think you are correct either way. Port forwarding is usually done on router to expose ports of a client in router's network to outside network.
And mobile hotspots are technically routers, you can port-forward at some of them. Even if you can't, port forwarding is no way tied to avaliability of dedicated IPv4, if anything it is software (or harware) limit of a device itself.
But even if you do have portforwarding in your hotspot (like MiFi 8000 4G LTE) The problem is that you are usually not only behind your hotspot's NAT, but also behind mobile operator's one. As such exposing ports can be pointles (not always, some do have workarounds).

Yeah seems i read it in a haze of tiredness, he wants to join not host.

But yeah you're almost guaranteed today to be behind the mobile operators NAT which you cannot forward through under most situations.
And the reason they do that is tied to the availability of IPv4 addresses in total. There just aren't that many left, all big blocks have already been allocated and if you want more of them you have to buy them from someone else. So i think you misread what i was saying in that portion of my comment.

For OP, in most games if the game has a regular server type system you should not need to forward your ports, however if the game uses P2P players that are both behind strict NAT's cannot connect with each other, only through an intermediary that has connectable ports.

Mobile isn't replacing hardlines in any serious use until we get wide IPv6 adoption.

[Griffin]

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