Tomatoes spoiling in storehouse?

[Rizz]

I may be wrong about this and just overlooked putting spoiled food into my storehouse recently, but when I went to go take food from it, there were spoiled tomatoes and ''kitchen waste'' this concerns me, I thought everything was safe from this when stored away.

I have a ton of food in the storehouse, and now I'm worried stuff will start to randomly spoil?

[Drackmore]

No, your food will still spoil in your stash, that is intended. If you want to store food for later you'll need to cook it however that only prolongs it. Currently only meat is able to be preserved and last indefinitly.

However as Alpha One has stated you want to store ALL your Kitchen Waste as you need 30 pieces of it to craft a single Revival Pill unless you manage to capture rare animals to farm body parts from.

[Chris The Imp]

Kitchen waste is pointless now... Don't fall for the revival pill thing as once you look at the energy cost for one... Yeah, pass!

[Xero]

Originally posted by Chris The Imp:

Kitchen waste is pointless now... Don't fall for the revival pill thing as once you look at the energy cost for one... Yeah, pass!

4.6m for one pill is totally fair tho! /s

[Chris The Imp]

Originally posted by Xero:

Originally posted by Chris The Imp:

Kitchen waste is pointless now... Don't fall for the revival pill thing as once you look at the energy cost for one... Yeah, pass!

4.6m for one pill is totally fair tho! /s

Out of all the balance stuff they did in the patch this one didn't make sense save for hard rewards. But that is just me.

[Rizz]

Makes sense why they spoiled so quickly, I didn't have any recipes to cook the tomatoes with, so they were definitely raw. I just got a "Common Raven Tomato Soup" recipe that uses them, will try that next time rather than just eating them raw.

[SVBB]

It feels like Don't Starve, food spoils, if you cook it it spoils not as fast (i don't have any spoiled cooked food yet, but only grilled food have "never spoil" perk)

[Neutralize]

I usually opt to eat tomatoes, since you can't cook them by themself unlike the other vegetables and they restore a decent amount of hunger (500). The other cooked veggies I just give to my exploration teams. The pacing works out well.

Plus hunting crows (or really any kind of bird) is kind of a pain in the ass. You either wait for them to land (and they seldom do) and take them out with the bow, fire wildly into the air with the slingshot and pray you hit it, or spend precious ammo to blast it out of the air. Not really worth it, imo, even if you are flush with bullets/shells. Unless you are really hard up for food. Goats, wolves, and horses are really where it's at, and once you get the cages and farms, and stock them, you'll have more smoked meat then you know what to do with.
Outside of starting out where you have little food and know you'll be consuming it soon, just much better to smoke all the meat you get to stockpile it. Stews are really the biggest waste, imo. The veggies I just use up as soon as I can. Milk too.

[Rizz]

Originally posted by Neutralize:

I usually opt to eat tomatoes, since you can't cook them by themself unlike the other vegetables and they restore a decent amount of hunger (500). The other cooked veggies I just give to my exploration teams. The pacing works out well.

Plus hunting crows (or really any kind of bird) is kind of a pain in the ass. You either wait for them to land (and they seldom do) and take them out with the bow, fire wildly into the air with the slingshot and pray you hit it, or spend precious ammo to blast it out of the air. Not really worth it, imo, even if you are flush with bullets/shells. Unless you are really hard up for food. Goats and wolves are really where it's at, and once you get the cages and farms, and stock them, you'll have more smoked meat then you know what to do with.
Outside of starting out where you have little food and know you'll be consuming it soon, just much better to smoke all the meat you get to stockpile it. The veggies I just use up as soon as I can. Milk too.

Thanks for the tips!

I completely forgot about setting up some cages, I had one set up a few days ago but never used it so I tore it down to make room... and now I just got done running around punching a bunch of wolves/wild asses/goats after the weekly reset, doh. I'll be setting a few up right now.

[Chris The Imp]

The problem with smoking is the lower hunger level vs the perk bonus, soup is where it is at! I heard you can make bread and pizza, anyone got info on what it takes for that?

[cowbell]

Soup sucks up water. Milk and smoked meat forever.

[Neutralize]

Originally posted by Chris The Imp:

The problem with smoking is the lower hunger level vs the perk bonus, soup is where it is at! I heard you can make bread and pizza, anyone got info on what it takes for that?

I haven't encountered it yet but my guess is it it would somehow involve the Wheat Flour resource.
And I gotta say I respectfully disagree, man. Forgive the incoming rant but here's a few reasons why:

- Smoked foods give buffs too. For example, Smoked Grey Wolf gives attack speed-up, and Smoked Cashmere Goat slows your hunger progression.

- Invariably you are going to get spoilage, especially once you have farms and are producing more resources than you can use in their timer. In that case, your excess non-preservative food gets you nothing. It's a near total loss. Kitchen Waste has only one use (for now or that's known) and it's super impractical- spending millions of Kuban and something like 30 Waste to craft one. Yeah...I'll get right on that, Konami. xD

- You're spending resources to make them, and more valuable resources than you do to make smoked foods. True you get maybe double the return, but again, after a point, you'll have more than enough excess to meet your needs so kind of pointless to do so when the rest will go to waste. Wood for smoked foods, vs bottles and/or materials to make canteens. Wood is the most common material in the game, hands-down.

- The weight of smoked foods is about half, but again, the return is half and you don't get back hydration either, so there is that, but then a canteen of water is considerably more return than any stew. Like double or more. It's much more economical to use your waters to make canteens in the early game, and later, it's even more economical to just drink the milk you get (which does give a small amount of hunger too, and with both cages and farms, you can amass) while using your excess clean water to either provide supply survival points to Exploration teams or compensate for not having a positive water Shared Resource (which I wouldn't really recommend, but does free you up to build other stuff).

Milk is by far the most economical thirst option in the mid-long game. It costs nothing but having the cages, animals, and waiting for the timer. You don't use up bottles to craft them or anything. Even with just two stocked cages and no farms, you can make your milk last until the timer refeshes.

- There are proportionally more meats that have smoked recipes than stew. Some meats, like vulture, can't be stewed.

- Like I mentioned, having the water production to make all that stew is pretty impractical. I find it more reasonable to just go out with plenty of bottles now and then, and fill up at a limitless water source- if I really need them. It's a waste to have too many water facilities after a point, compared to food resources (which also give crafting materials), defenses, etc. Though bottles don't really have too many uses, either, I'd much rather spend them towards Improved Molotovs than consumables that have better alternatives.

And yeah...sorry, I'm done now. :x

[Chris The Imp]

Originally posted by cowbell:

Soup sucks up water. Milk and smoked meat forever.

Water is so easy to get though, and soup covers hunger and thirst together...