If Capcom decides to make Dead Rising 5, can it ignore the events of Dead Rising 4? (And remove Dead Rising 4 from the canon series completly)

[Deadly Effect]

Dead Rising 4, Frank West return...... developers have made the most expensive prank on Christmas period. Dead Rising 4 doesnt have anything what Dead Rising is well known for. Not only cause theres no phychopaths, no time limit and other. Frank West - is just a name of the protagonist and thats about it. Its not only because he had different appearance and voice actor. Frank might went throw lot of things, but it never stopped him from learning the truth and save many innocent lives as possible. In Dead Rising 4, "Frank" all of a sudden doesnt cares about saving lives, he doesnt want to stop unknown organization from making bio weapon which can threat world s existence, instead we see the guy who just wants to get the job done, leave and become famous again, everything else doesnt matter. And Vick is the 1 who convinces him to take some action. It reminds situation with Luke Skywalker when Rey showed up. Both of them do the opposite of what they would do, both of them acting out of their character and both do not want to help, although in such cases they would agree almost immediately. Marvel vs. Capcom: Infinite made a better Frank West, I would agree on Frank s appearance in this game being a canon than whole Dead Rising 4 as a canon. This whole time, Dr Barnaby was developing ways to make zombies with their human intelligence intac ....... what ? This doesnt make any sense, why would he do that if he was aimed on find the means to mass-produce cattle? And how s that research would ve helped with mass-produce cattle? They made it on the accident and mutated wasp escaped, causing the outbreak. Wherever you look at it, it's a dumb plot twist. Now about the other characters...... Vick.......... i dont even want to say anything. In the list of worst game characters ever, she ll definetly be on the tops, thats all. Brad Park..... head of ZDC? Didn't he leave the organization after learning that they were killing survivors instead of saving them and destroying evidence of their activities? Developers even knew what previous Dead Rising games were about? Dead Rising 4 might cool in a gameplay part, but everything else just doesnt make any sense. I dont get why people hated Dead Rising 3, its the same Dead Rising game, with plot, enemies, but with more freedom and opportunities to be massive zombie killing machine. Story of a third game might not great but still really good. It's a shame that the main studio which made Dead Rising series is closed because of this parody on Dead Rising that looks like a giant sandbox rather than offical continue of Dead Rising series. Frank Rising..... i dont want to say anything about it as well. Level of idea:Vick. Been made just to keep "Frank" alive. For unoffical Dead Rising game with giant sandbox mode, this game fits perfectly. But as a offical continue..... with Frank s parody in it.... its just dumb. So if DR5 takes place, can it take it after DR3 events? And remove "Dead Rising 4" from canon series? The only thing in Dead Rising 4 from Dead Rising is just game s and Frank s names.

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Apparently a Dead Rising 5 was scheduled for release in like 2021. It was going to treat Dead Rising 4 as non canon and more like a Off The Record 2.

It was going to tell the story of Jack, an up and coming photojournalist that gets in trouble a lot for his conspiracy theories at college. It would take place 25 years after the first outbreak at Willamette.

It was going to take place in a town with a mall and college campus. It was going to be like the first game with a strict time limit, multiple playthroughs to level up, and have Survivor escorting to one place, but with Ai like the second game had. The combo weapons would be like the ones in the second game where they weren’t too over the top. The psychopaths would also be people that went insane as a result of the outbreak rather than walking stereotypes like the third had.

Apparently Capcom Vancouver weren’t making it and so Hopefully Capcom will assign a new team on this game’s idea. The idea was also to be called Dead Rising and it be intended as a reboot instead of a traditional “5”. No characters from the past games would return, though Frank West would be referenced quite a bit. Willamette would also be treated as a place that was abandoned after the original outbreak.


Personally, I loved the first 2 and I love the fourth one. I didn’t like the gameplay of the third one or the map, but the story and ending was phenomenal. The third one is a game that I probably won’t play again though.

Frank went insane after Willamette and he further was pushed in Case West. In Case West, he enjoys the zombie killing with “Batter’s up ! Home run” which makes Chuck feel uneasy. He was also shown to be insane in Dead Rising: Watchtower. Frank has changed nearly 20 years later and that is his character growth. He’s a tragic protagonist and that’s how he should be played in the fourth game.

He still has a heart and helps people, but his mental stability isn’t all there.

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Originally posted by Deadly Effect:

Originally posted by SlurpySam:

Nowhere is it stated by the creators that Frank went insane after the events of the first Dead Rising. After his appearances in Case West, Off the Record (I know, OTR isn't canon) and even Dead Rising 4, We see him having a goofier personality, and becomes more of a cocky ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ than he was in the first game. The reasoning behind this is clearly because he's become famous after the events of Dead Rising 1, and the fame has grown his ego by a lot

Apparently, everyone in DR4 having goofer personality. Brad for example. Although Brad appeared for short time in DR3 Agent DLC, he was hardly regonazible in DR4 as much as Frank. He left ZDC due their actions, and he just couldn't have become head of ZDC. Thing with Frank is same as with Luke Skywaker: both been "brought back" but they do something they wouldn’t do. More about DR4 as "the official sequel to the Dead Rising" here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUiq6QnuMOI

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Originally posted by SlurpySam:

Originally posted by Deadsea_1993:

Personally, I loved the first 2 and I love the fourth one. I didn’t like the gameplay of the third one or the map, but the story and ending was phenomenal. The third one is a game that I probably won’t play again though.

We know. You already posted several threads explaining all of this to everyone.

Originally posted by Deadsea_1993:

Frank went insane after Willamette and he further was pushed in Case West. In Case West, he enjoys the zombie killing with “Batter’s up ! Home run” which makes Chuck feel uneasy. He was also shown to be insane in Dead Rising: Watchtower. Frank has changed nearly 20 years later and that is his character growth. He’s a tragic protagonist and that’s how he should be played in the fourth game.

He still has a heart and helps people, but his mental stability isn’t all there.

Dead Rising: Watchtower, and Endgame have been confirmed to be non canon in the game's universe, as seen here: https://imgur.com/gallery/dOsFSvw


Nowhere is it stated by the creators that Frank went insane after the events of the first Dead Rising. After his appearances in Case West, Off the Record (I know, OTR isn't canon) and even Dead Rising 4, We see him having a goofier personality, and becomes more of a cocky ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ than he was in the first game. The reasoning behind this is clearly because he's become famous after the events of Dead Rising 1, and the fame has grown his ego by a lot. His personality has become very similar to Ash Williams, from the Evil Dead series in Dead Rising 4. It seems almost as if his character has taken a lot of inspiration from Ash in the newer games, to the point of where people are calling Frank West, the Ash Williams of the Dead Rising.

Originally posted by Deadsea_1993:

Apparently a Dead Rising 5 was scheduled for release in like 2021. It was going to treat Dead Rising 4 as non canon and more like a Off The Record 2.

It's for the best that they were going to consider 4 non canon. They had changed Frank West so much in Dead Rising 4, to the point where he was completely unrecognizable. The three most notable changes were his appearance, voice, and personality. Frank from Case West, and OTR was still Frank West, just slightly older. I'm not saying I was a part of the large majority that disliked Dead Rising 4. I actually enjoyed it for what it was, and found it to be a good zombie game, but not a good Dead Rising Game. I consider it another what-if scenario, like OTR was.

I said that in my thread, this one, and Off Topic. I’m a huge fan and that’s why I stated that.

In Case West, Frank was definitely unstable and insane. He joked about zombie killing and he also enjoyed killing them. That’s why he was crazy in Watchtower.

As for his weight, that was a side effect of the prototype Zombrex, but the cure from Isabella cured him of those side effects and he worked out.

As for fame, that was only in the what if scenario of Off The Record, which wasn’t canon. He wanted the truth and he also did it as vengeance against Phenotrans for continuing Carlito’s work. He was unstable after Willamette from all that he saw from everything. They chose to continue this in the fourth game by his joking about zombie deaths and even saying “Who wants BBQ ?” To a zombie on fire. Vick found this in poor taste just like Chuck found his comments appalling in Case West.

And wasn’t Ash insane from all he saw ? Didn’t he lose fear of the undead to a degree ? That’s pretty much Frank’s story. Frank is also very much like Negan from Walking Dead.

As for the events of the fourth game.

1. He was older and tired. He didn’t want to uncover the truth anymore because he had the government always breathing down his neck. You’d think he would have been in hiding cause we learn from the museum in Dead Rising 3 that Frank’s involvement in Willamette and Frank and Chuck’s involvement with Fortune City were covered up by the government. I guess they keep Frank around as a curiosity.

2. He had uncovered the truth many times and saw how dangerous it was and that’s why he told Vick to back away from the case. He only went to Willamette to rescue Vick. Then his old ways kick in while there and he wants to get the truth out.


I’m hoping that the ideas meant for Dead Rising 5 will be given to a new Capcom team and make the team dedicated to Dead Rising. The ideas were very good and I’d like them to get back to basics, which they were promising. They were promising a game to be exactly like the first game at the core of it while having the believable combo weapons and the survivor Ai from the second game. They were promising a true successor to Dead Rising 2. The ideas sounded awesome ! It was confirmed in development with a release date of 2021, so that’s already a great sign.

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We will just have to agree to disagree, but glad you’re also a fan. I take the dresses and weird outfits as optional themes to make the player laugh. I always wear the character’s default outfits.

No one is working on DR5 at the moment, but my theory is that Capcom is waiting a few years to reboot the series. The last two were underwhelming to majority of fans and Capcom wants to reorganize the series completely.

This was shown with a different team working on DR5, not Capcom Vancouver. That shows that by that time, Capcom had lost faith completely in that team. The ideas behind it and themes are definitely in the right direction.

Then again, I’d like a return to enclosed areas like the first two. Yet if there was a college, town, and mall, in the way 4 was designed, I wouldn’t complain either.

Is this the end of the series ? I don’t think so. It’s been a fairly big selling series that was a surprise upset to Capcom seeing as the first was a side project while people waited for the next Resident Evil. Then it became a smash hit and a series was designed around it. Capcom loves money and they won’t cut their face out of spite by letting go of the series completely.

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Originally posted by SlurpySam:

Originally posted by Deadsea_1993:

We will just have to agree to disagree, but glad you’re also a fan.

That's cool with me!

Originally posted by Deadsea_1993:

I always wear the character’s default outfits.

Believe it or not, I do that too lmao. It just doesn't feel right playing the game without em'. However, I do occasionally wear Nick's Battle hardened outfit, because I think it looks cool since it's a torn up version of the default outfit.

Originally posted by Deadsea_1993:

No one is working on DR5 at the moment, but my theory is that Capcom is waiting a few years to reboot the series. The last two were underwhelming to majority of fans and Capcom wants to reorganize the series completely.

This was shown with a different team working on DR5, not Capcom Vancouver. That shows that by that time, Capcom had lost faith completely in that team. The ideas behind it and themes are definitely in the right direction.

Definitely hope so, I know this just can't be the end for the series. It still has a ton of potential, and I've been playing these games for years. One of my favorite game franchises.

Originally posted by Deadsea_1993:

Then again, I’d like a return to enclosed areas like the first two. Yet if there was a college, town, and mall, in the way 4 was designed, I wouldn’t complain either.

Either or, really. I'm fine with both. Personally, I preferred Dead Rising 4's town over the city in Dead Rising 3. But, I'll always miss the small enclosed environments from the first two games.

It's nice to actually be able to talk to people about these games. The discussions for these games are normally dead, and a lot of people just don't seem to care about them anymore. The first game will always have a special place in my heart. I'm glad this remained civilized, and didn't turn into some horrible argument you see everywhere on steam these days.

I agree and I’m an easy going person. I’ve been a fan since 2006 when the first game was announced with screenshots and the trailer.

I love all of the Dead Rising games except the third one and Off The Record. Don’t get me wrong, I loved the story in the third game, but not the map or gameplay. I don’t regret completing the story with the S rank. The ending really made me rethink Isabella from Case West and I don’t think anyone saw that coming. I did find character relationships to feel forced and I didn’t understand why Isabella would find a cure for Phenotrans since the whole Zombrex plot was the main plot of the second game.

I thought that her interest in the Orphans would be to perfect zombie creation and a more potent Zombrex as a result of Nick’s blood sample if she was going that route.

As for Off The Record, I would have been happier if we got a sort of Case Zero with Frank. I didn’t like the changes in that game, but the biggest problem I had was that it was a $40 cash grab by Capcom. It was a reskinned Dead Rising 2 and I didn’t like that. Even Uranus Park was underwhelming.

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Okay there is one thing Dead Rising 4 is doing good. No time limit. I personally don´t like being pressured by the time 24/7. I just wanna kill zombies and have a good story.

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Originally posted by FDHappy|YT:

Okay there is one thing Dead Rising 4 is doing good. No time limit. I personally don´t like being pressured by the time 24/7. I just wanna kill zombies and have a good story.

I’m a person that doesn’t mind the changes at all. The changes in the third game were a completely different song and dance. The story was phenomenal, the characters, I enjoyed a few new combo weapons like the Sledge-Saw, Electric Hanmer, etc.

However nothing was balanced. It wasn’t fun killing zombies, the case missions were boring, the map was awful, etc. The survivor missions were tedious and not fun to do, I ignored 60% of them.

There’s got to be a balance. Personally I’m enjoying the fourth game more cause these problems have been alleviated. Is it as good as the first two ? Not at all.

Is it a fun game that still has Dead Rising core elements ? Yes.

[Deadly Effect]

https://youtu.be/ejeIT0MBSac

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Originally posted by Deadly Effect:

https://youtu.be/ejeIT0MBSac

I’m aware of the video, but you are aware that the video is very old. The game has gone through updates and it’s really fun.

People should play the game and ignore haters. Game definitely was Dead Rising.

If there is a 5, the fourth would be rebranded as Off The Record 2 and I’d be ok with that. I’d definitely want the fifth one to be more like the first 2 with all the elements.

I just don’t get the hate for the fourth one. It removed the many problems from the third one or fine tuned them. Even bizarre changes like survivors being OP and the Exo suit were very well incorporated. The outbreak had been going on for awhile and so that’s why survivors are strong and can fend for themselves for the most part. The military Exo suit was there cause the military and it changed the dynamic of combat that didn’t go too over the top.

The camera changes were amazing and I loved the Batman: Arkham Asylum like investigating. The clues were also very well done and reminded me of The Riddler from the Arkham Games.

The removal of a time limit doesn’t bother me and it was one of those changes that I thought would be a deal breaker until I played the game. There’s so much to see, do, and explore, that I’m happy that this game has no time limits outside a few Survivor errands.

Panic Rooms were far better than Safe Zones from the third game and they weren’t as annoying to get to and use.

The inventory, map, Frank, case missions, etc, are all fun. I can’t remember the last time a game like this has caused me to play it nonstop and not be bored. Even the new combo system and combo vehicles are just so awesome. I love getting onto a Four Wheeler and look for a military truck to combine the War Monger.

Even the combo system was improved upon in the fourth game and I love the new special attacks by combo vehicles that are devastating, but they come at a high cost of using more of the vehicle’s battery to balance it all out.


I definitely agree with others that the glitches and freezing issues are a major problem that should have been fixed by Capcom. One freezing couldn’t even let me use the Task Manager and I had to sign out to force shut down the program. Then I made it so that the task manager could pop open on full screen games to avoid that in the future. That freezing issue happened just as I started the game up. Then another freezing problem happened during the menu loading.

So far I’ve got nearly 13 hours in and I’m not even close to completing the game yet and I’m at level 51.