Cold Waters

Cold Waters

toinkertoy Apr 20, 2018 @ 2:41pm
Golf-class submarine
I notice it’s been added to the game but didn’t see it in the SCS campaign? Where has this new sub been used in-game?
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theCarthaginian Apr 20, 2018 @ 2:43pm 
Originally posted by toinkertoy:
I notice it’s been added to the game but didn’t see it in the SCS campaign? Where has this new sub been used in-game?

It would be more appropriate for it to be used in the 1968 campaign.
toinkertoy Apr 20, 2018 @ 2:46pm 
Originally posted by theCarthaginian:
It would be more appropriate for it to be used in the 1968 campaign.

Yeah! But it’s not in the SSBN_PATROL file (which I think is the final mission). Haven’t yet looked through ALL the mission files just yet, I’m sort of intrigued where (what mission precisely) it would be encountered if anyone knew!

Not in the Sub-resupply ones either. Guess I’ll look more in-depth later if no one’s found if and answered before I do
Last edited by toinkertoy; Apr 20, 2018 @ 2:49pm
Justicier10-7 Apr 20, 2018 @ 3:26pm 
I've looked through resupply missions and SSBN patrols and I haven't seen it yet... would be good to see in '68. Probably wouldn't be too difficult to add an SSB patrol in addition to the SSBN in such a way that one or the other will trigger... though I would say that the SSB patrol should be multiple SSB's that must launch further into NATO territory... they're of very limited capability.
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theCarthaginian Apr 20, 2018 @ 6:15pm 
I'm thinking about putting my modder hat back on and trying to scrape together a 'Diesel Boats Forever' campaign... something that would try to follow the 'second line' boats in the 1968 campaign. The Golf would make for a good last mission, as would an Echo or Juliett.
Irving Mainway Apr 20, 2018 @ 10:02pm 
As best as I know, by 1968 I don't think they were doing many east coast patrols with the Golf. I would guess they'd be deployed to the Norwegian Sea and would be ready to hit European targets if it came down to that.
Justicier10-7 Apr 20, 2018 @ 10:23pm 
Originally posted by theCarthaginian:
I'm thinking about putting my modder hat back on and trying to scrape together a 'Diesel Boats Forever' campaign... something that would try to follow the 'second line' boats in the 1968 campaign. The Golf would make for a good last mission, as would an Echo or Juliett.

I was thinking of something similar, but in the South China Sea theater with the Red Banner Fleet against the PLAN. The idea is for it to be an escalation of the Sino-Soviet split and subsequent border conflict.

I think with the SCS theater available, there will be alot of interesting options for campaigns in different time frames.
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theCarthaginian Apr 20, 2018 @ 10:27pm 
Originally posted by Irving Mainway:
As best as I know, by 1968 I don't think they were doing many east coast patrols with the Golf. I would guess they'd be deployed to the Norwegian Sea and would be ready to hit European targets if it came down to that.

Remember, the GUPPY, Tang and Barbel classes would have been patroling all over, not just on the East Coast. A prime mission would have been covering the G-I-UK gap, where SOSUS data could give them good intercept info... (in theory) all they would have had to do is lay in wait at steerage, making occasional changes in position to meet incoming targets.
A lot of those targets (in 68) would have been SSGs and SSGNs moving to launch cruise missiles at the East Coast or US CBGs in the Atlantic.
toinkertoy Apr 20, 2018 @ 10:51pm 
Well it just puzzles me why they’d go to all the trouble making the sub and not use it anywhere. There’s also this Yu-1 torpedo that’s there and doesn’t seem to be used by anything! Unless they just added it for modders!
Justicier10-7 Apr 20, 2018 @ 11:20pm 
Originally posted by toinkertoy:
Well it just puzzles me why they’d go to all the trouble making the sub and not use it anywhere. There’s also this Yu-1 torpedo that’s there and doesn’t seem to be used by anything! Unless they just added it for modders!

I'm thinking that'll change before the final public SCS release... there are a couple of Chinese boats that use SET-65's when it makes more sense they would use Yu-1's...
toinkertoy Apr 21, 2018 @ 12:05am 
Originally posted by Justicier:
I'm thinking that'll change before the final public SCS release... there are a couple of Chinese boats that use SET-65's when it makes more sense they would use Yu-1's...

Are they the SET-65’s or the 65M’s? It looked like the old 65’s were pretty similer to the Yu-1’s ( basically crap sensor range of about 800 yds ) in that case yeah it would make sense to use the Yu-1.
Justicier10-7 Apr 21, 2018 @ 9:19am 
Originally posted by toinkertoy:
Originally posted by Justicier:
I'm thinking that'll change before the final public SCS release... there are a couple of Chinese boats that use SET-65's when it makes more sense they would use Yu-1's...

Are they the SET-65’s or the 65M’s? It looked like the old 65’s were pretty similer to the Yu-1’s ( basically crap sensor range of about 800 yds ) in that case yeah it would make sense to use the Yu-1.

Yeah they were using the old SET-65. It's possible that the vessels were integrated into the game at an earlier date than the Yu-1 was... maybe the files just haven't been updated for it yet, it's a pretty minor thing since the SET and Yu have nearly the same stats.
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