Mission Briefing TOO VAGUE

[NeoMorph]

There really should be a map at the least... just got a mission briefing that sat recon has spotted enemy cruise missile subs are preparing to sail BUT NO INFORMATION WHERE FROM. A brief thumbnail of the sat image would REALLY go a long way to let us know where to look.

[hoffmannjames]

Might be a bug. Every mission briefing I've gotten was very detailed.

[Brygun]

Seems like a bug.
Details usually include where they are going, such as crossing the Denmark Straits.

[whiteriot1]

I haven't had this exactly but the mission that tells you some sub or whatever is heading to the Guik area, that's not even on the map, I even googled Guik, it doesn't exist in Europe, there are vague references to Guik in Aisa, what the chuff? Also an important mission tells you to intercept subs heading for the 'ice cap', what? Where is that for gods sake, do they send real life nuclear subs out with such vague instructions?

[NappingMan]

GIUK https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GIUK_gap

[Dark Neuron]

As the guy above pointed out... please pay attention. I know games these days throw a million markers on every single map, but this doesn't.

[whiteriot1]

I stand corrected, it's still not on the map in the game, what about the 'ice cap' mission?

[NeoMorph]

Has to have been a bug because there was absolutely ZERO location data. I even know the GIUK gap stands for Greenland Iceland UK Gap... but not even that was listed. I really should have taken a screenshot.

[whiteriot1]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guik

[stb155]

I think the briefing is OK as is, once you know how each type of mission works in details.

What is really missing is a good tutorial for each mission type so that you know where to go what to do.

I just watched a Youtube video of a guy trying the TLAM mission.

He sneaked in the blue circle, and from there fired 12 TLAMs at the red markings on the map where the enemy harbors are.
Then wondered why he failed...

I did exactly the same when i first tried that mission.

How am i supposed to know that i can be anywhere on the map, must fire the TLAMs AT the blue circle, and from there they auto-redirect to the red target areas ?!?

While in the seal insertion type mission i have to sneak IN the blue cicle and deploy the seals from the stores page, IF i previosly loaded them in port, which i of corse did not do, as i assumed they board automatically.


But this kind of information/detail i only need once from a tutorial, video or manual.
Once i know how a mission type works in detail, in the briefing i only need WHERE, WHEN and WHAT (type of mission/target), and some agenda/lore/story.

Edit:
The "Giuk" one also had me wondering and searching the map 2min. without result. But then i was a little bit proud of myself when i figured it out and finished the mission, so i say this kind of small extra difficulty is ok sometimes.

[The Inept European]

Originally posted by stb155:

What is really missing is a good tutorial for each mission type so that you know where to go what to do.

Agreed

[The Inept European]

Originally posted by stb155:

He sneaked in the blue circle, and from there fired 12 TLAMs at the red markings on the map where the enemy harbors are.
Then wondered why he failed...

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While in the seal insertion type mission i have to sneak IN the blue cicle and deploy the seals from the stores page, IF i previosly loaded them in port, which i of corse did not do, as i assumed they board automatically.
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But this kind of information/detail i only need once from a tutorial, video or manual.
Once i know how a mission type works in detail, in the briefing i only need WHERE, WHEN and WHAT (type of mission/target), and some agenda/lore/story.

Yup. Yup. Yup.

At the moment the game and its briefings are written assuming the player is a sub nerd and knows the specifics of the historical period, including NATO terminology. That's a poor assumption. In general the briefings need to be made a lot clearer, and take a lot less 'for granted'.

[NappingMan]

True. I guess I cheated a bit. I've a degree in International Relations with a minor in Geography. And so far this game is the ONLY time I've ever used it. :)

[NeoMorph]

Originally posted by stb155:

I think the briefing is OK as is, once you know how each type of mission works in details.

What is really missing is a good tutorial for each mission type so that you know where to go what to do.

Hell yeah... This game is very rough around the edges tbh... still fun to play though... especially when you add in the russian subs mods. I wonder if someone will add in playable ships too. I loved that about DW. It's been sooooooooo long since I played that I just wonder if I am thinking of it with rose tinted memory cells... but it seemed more in-depth than Cold Waters.