Quick question about Ouroboros

[Iido]

I don't want to look too deeply into this on account of spoilers, and can't seem to find an answer anyway, but when did Ouroboros come into the picture? Is Trails in the Sky their first appearance? I think Dragon Slayer, and the Garghav Trilogy, have their own continuities, and Trails in the Sky was the beginning of a new continuity that's still going on in Cold Steel, right?

Just wondering how much we're missing about Ouroboros if we've never played the first 5 games, if they were in those.

[Keio]

The first mention of Ouroboros is the start of SC but has been in the background since beginning of FC.

[Cold_Reverie]

Actually, Keio, the first mention of them was towards the end of FC when (Massive Sky FC Spoilers) Weissman says, "Back to Ouroboros." . But yes, Hanpan, you are first introduced to them and learn the most about them in the Sky games for sure.

Anyway, the first Sky game is where the shared continuity starts. All the Trails games take place on the same continent within a few years of each other. They are not connected to the other Legend of Heroes games (though there are theories that the Gagharv Trilogy take place in the same world but on a different continent--but that's just speculation, there is no evidence to support that, yet at least).

If you've played the first Cold Steel already you should play the older ones while waiting for CSII's PC port. They recently had Turbo Mode backported into them, so there isn't really a better time to get into them, in my opinion.

Without spoilers, let's just say that Ouroboros is a recurring 'Society' throught the games, and while it's fine to jump into the start of an Arc, it's best to go back and play all the other Arcs eventually since there are things you won't understand without playing them all. (an Arc is each trilogy/duology of Trails games that take place in a different nation with a different cast)

[Keio]

Originally posted by Cold_Steel:

Actually the first mention of them was towards the end of FC. You learn the most about them in the Sky games.

Oh you're right. I had totally forgotten about that whole surprise revelation of the organization's existence at the very end of FC.

[Cold_Reverie]

Originally posted by Keio:

Originally posted by Cold_Steel:

Actually the first mention of them was towards the end of FC. You learn the most about them in the Sky games.

Oh you're right. I had totally forgotten about that whole surprise revelation of the organization's existence at the very end of FC.

And so began one of the greatest game series ever made.... ;)

[Monterossa]

Their leader is Albert Wesker.

[Iido]

I have played all 3 Trails in the Sky games =3

I was just asking if Ouroboros existed in the first 5 Legends of Heroes games as well, or if they made their first appearance in Trails in the Sky. I've wondered for a while, because I feared I was missing story and background information about them and their members without playing the games prior to Sky. Thanks for answering. ^^

[Terra]

Originally posted by Monterossa:

Their leader is Albert Wesker.

Nah, it's Revolver Ocelot.

[Cold_Reverie]

Oh, okay. That's an easy one then: There is nothing about Ouroboros in the first 5 LoH games.

[Hagen2900]

Isn't the Doll knight series of bugs originally from one of first 5 LoH games? I may be wrong about that. In any event there is a mention of the 13 factories in the Doll Knight series.

[Cold_Reverie]

Yes, the Doll Knight series of books are from the Gagharv Trilogy, hence the speculation that they may take place in the same world. There are more references, too, like the picture of the Gagharv in the Lusitania in Trails in the Sky the 3rd.

But, the President of Falcom is a big Gagharv fan, so it could just be easter eggs and cameos, and nothing more. We propably won't know for sure until either the Trails series ends, Gagharv gets remade, or both.

[pibedetorres]

I also think those are easter eggs, just like the card game where you see characters from the older Legend of Heroes games as J/Q/K figures. But hey, if Falcom wants to make them belong to the same universe as Trails I'm sure they'll find a way XD