remove women

[Guy Montag]

this was possible in x1 i think but how can we achieve this in x2?

[Guy Montag]

If anybody else is interested, to edit the starting pool is
steamapps/common/Xenonauts2/assets/assets/xenonauts/template/strategy/actor/combatant/human/xenonauts/starting_pool/soldiers

[Atari 2600]

Horned Owl の投稿を引用：

Shayle Thorne の投稿を引用：

Sorry, had to respond to this. As a veteran and a woman, this kind of thinking is still ridiculous. With the technology nowadays, holding onto a male dominated military is stupid. Yes men are biologically stronger. Any considerations other than that are fantasy. Males arent more suited to combat. And its their own problem if they cant be disciplined enough to keep to their own roles when women are around. Women are just as capable and willing to be a frontline combatant, and some women are more capable. Including the "elite" units. flipping boys club bs still happening out there *sigh*.

As to the game, doesnt matter, play it how you like.

My issue is that the stats are equalized. You can't tell me that women have equal REFLEXES, STRENGTH, ACCURACY, SPEED (TU), HITPOINTS (endurance), and BRAVERY. Thanks for your service but the fact that you served does not invalidate what I am saying.

As a U.S. military veteran who trained with SEALS, Rangers and Delta Force in Georgia years ago, I can assure you there are plenty of females in black ops, Delta Force, regular special forces, rangers, 82nd airborne, 101st infantry, and even the SEALs. It's not 100% about physical attributes. They do the job like anyone else.

[Holylin]

WTF do you really want to take my Major Carter away from my alien killing team? The audacity!

[Mehukannu]

lokiju の投稿を引用：

Horned Owl の投稿を引用：

My issue is that the stats are equalized. You can't tell me that women have equal REFLEXES, STRENGTH, ACCURACY, SPEED (TU), HITPOINTS (endurance), and BRAVERY. Thanks for your service but the fact that you served does not invalidate what I am saying.

As a U.S. military veteran who trained with SEALS, Rangers and Delta Force in Georgia years ago, I can assure you there are plenty of females in black ops, Delta Force, regular special forces, rangers, 82nd airborne, 101st infantry, and even the SEALs. It's not 100% about physical attributes. They do the job like anyone else.

Omg. This reminds me of a certain ancient greentext from ages past. lmao.

[Thrice]

The Rach の投稿を引用：

Shayle Thorne の投稿を引用：

Sorry, had to respond to this. As a veteran and a woman, this kind of thinking is still ridiculous. With the technology nowadays, holding onto a male dominated military is stupid. Yes men are biologically stronger. Any considerations other than that are fantasy. Males arent more suited to combat. And its their own problem if they cant be disciplined enough to keep to their own roles when women are around. Women are just as capable and willing to be a frontline combatant, and some women are more capable. Including the "elite" units. flipping boys club bs still happening out there *sigh*.

As to the game, doesnt matter, play it how you like.

I find the issue is that most militaries nowadays make the physical standards easier for women getting in, which is silly imo any woman can achieve great physical capabilities albiet with greater effort required. Problem then is that all these SOF groups don't make it easier so most women never even make it try. Its our own leadership setting women up too fail by having patronising tests. In my platoon the 4 women there all felt like they cheated after the FORCE test since it was easier on them. I still respected them though as my sisters in arms.

I could agree with that. Theres no need to change physical standards. Women *can* keep up with the average.

[Thrice]

Horned Owl の投稿を引用：

Shayle Thorne の投稿を引用：

Sorry, had to respond to this. As a veteran and a woman, this kind of thinking is still ridiculous. With the technology nowadays, holding onto a male dominated military is stupid. Yes men are biologically stronger. Any considerations other than that are fantasy. Males arent more suited to combat. And its their own problem if they cant be disciplined enough to keep to their own roles when women are around. Women are just as capable and willing to be a frontline combatant, and some women are more capable. Including the "elite" units. flipping boys club bs still happening out there *sigh*.

As to the game, doesnt matter, play it how you like.

My issue is that the stats are equalized. You can't tell me that women have equal REFLEXES, STRENGTH, ACCURACY, SPEED (TU), HITPOINTS (endurance), and BRAVERY. Thanks for your service but the fact that you served does not invalidate what I am saying.

I never said anything (If you were talking to me)about that. Everyone has different skills. I think thats pretty well represented in the game with the random stats. Should they adjust the average str down? Up the reflexes or speed? Bravery? How to balance it. And for a game, it DOES need balanced. You dont need balance IRL, but they do need to appeal to a large audience rather than represent real life.

[NeoG]

Just pretend they are manly men that like to style themselves like J Edgar Hoover

[Captiva]

Women rock! My wife is awesome! She is the hardest worker I know.

I would not want a mixed gender squad. All males or all females in real life. I do not want my soldiers focusing on trying to impress each other or what kind of underwear their squad mate is wearing. (not a problem in a video game though)

I do not think it is a capability thing. It comes down more to who is suited better for what job. Women are just as capable and smart as men and if trained properly can do the same job as properly trained men.

However if you put heavy armor on most women, they won't be able to move effectively, so men are more suited for some stuff as women are better suited for some as well but most of this is just physical limitations that are inherit.

In this game setting I do not think it would be reasonable to exclude women as we need the best of the best and certainly that includes everyone regardless of traditional roles.

This is not medieval times where strength and endurance are the primary combat attributes needed, intelligence and agility and accuracy with guns mean way more in modern era, which makes women more then capable.

[Thrice]

Captiva の投稿を引用：

Women rock! My wife is awesome! She is the hardest worker I know.

I would not want a mixed gender squad. All males or all females in real life. I do not want my soldiers focusing on trying to impress each other or what kind of underwear their squad mate is wearing. (not a problem in a video game though)

I do not think it is a capability thing. It comes down more to who is suited better for what job. Women are just as capable and smart as men and if trained properly can do the same job as properly trained men.

However if you put heavy armor on most women, they won't be able to move effectively, so men are more suited for some stuff as women are better suited for some as well but most of this is just physical limitations that are inherit.

In this game setting I do not think it would be reasonable to exclude women as we need the best of the best and certainly that includes everyone regardless of traditional roles.

This is not medieval times where strength and endurance are the primary combat attributes needed, intelligence and agility and accuracy with guns mean way more in modern era, which makes women more then capable. :xcom2sharpshooter:

I understand what you are saying. I agree with alot of what you say. Heres a few things to think about.

1. You dont want your soldiers focusing on impressing people, or guessing underwear, or fantasizing about sex (I added that), etc.

This is something you can train out of people. And if you cant, you dont have quality soldiers. I know its *easier* to exclude women, because its always been done, but its a new age, with technology that covers the gaps between sexes mate.

2. Women arent as strong as men, so heavy kit will always be a problem.

-This is used by almost everyone arguing to exclude women from active service. First off, keep physical requirements as high as needed to assure this doesnt happen, but give women a chance to try to pass them. And when they do, dont treat them differently. I would agree with your point, except for the fact that you dont give an option for the women who *can* carry that heavy kit. And most kit is now MOLLE which is something most women could easily carry. Adding on any other equipment would be for a specialist mission, I dont see it happening enough to exclude a full gender based off a possibility.

All in all, it made sense in the past to exclude women from active combat. It doesnt anymore. But again, for gaming purposes, do what you want.

[hapyjohn]

Its cosmetic preference mostly also sometimes I look at the recruit page and its 80% women and it throws my immersion for a loop for a couple seconds.

I don't mind if there are female soldiers but I would prefer them to adjust the frequency at which they appear.

Last I checked they recruit from special forces and most special forces have a high washout rate especially for the few women that apply and that's not taking into account that several of the countries in the game don't allow women in the special forces yet.

Make it a 1/20 male to female ratio think of it like getting a shiny in Pokemon.

[VoiD]

I don't care either way, I just wish the women didn't have lazy male models with shrinked bodies, but I love seeing the people pretending "it doesn't matter, but I will defend the status quo as if my life depended on it" in every one of these threads.

[DaviddesJ]

VoiD の投稿を引用：

I love seeing the people pretending "it doesn't matter, but I will defend the status quo as if my life depended on it" in every one of these threads.

Making the incels mad turns out to be one of the best things about this game.

[Solus Hunter]

Holylin の投稿を引用：

WTF do you really want to take my Major Carter away from my alien killing team? The audacity!

Loved this! Don't forget Teyla.

[VoiD]

DaviddesJ の投稿を引用：

VoiD の投稿を引用：

I love seeing the people pretending "it doesn't matter, but I will defend the status quo as if my life depended on it" in every one of these threads.

Making the incels mad turns out to be one of the best things about this game.

https://youtu.be/G2y8Sx4B2Sk

Because~


https://youtu.be/oykzpjC7s1Y

[DaviddesJ]

You can't convince me that a single one of the males here complaining that women shouldn't be in combat has a normal relationship with any woman. I have no idea if you are "right wing" or "left wing", which seems to be the topic of this video. But there's something something seriously wrong with all of you.