Infinite Enemy Spawns Aren't Fun

[zavian]

I like the different mission types, but I'm not a fan of the 'infinite enemies spawn after X turns' mechanic. I would like to see an options toggle to turn it off or at least have limited enemy spawns, as in my opinion it simply isn't a fun mechanic when it's an infinite spam of enemies

[DaviddesJ]

Infinite Enemy Spawns Are FUN!!!

[jfoytek]

Originally posted by zavian:

I like the different mission types, but I'm not a fan of the 'infinite enemies spawn after X turns' mechanic. I would like to see an options toggle to turn it off or at least have limited enemy spawns, as in my opinion it simply isn't a fun mechanic when it's an infinite spam of enemies

its only infinite if you choose to not leave the map and accomplish the mission.

[Khan]

That doesn't change the fact that infinite enemy spawns are just cheap and lazy game design, and generally un-fun and immersion breaking. Having very large sustained reinforcements show up after a certain point is all well and good, but they should not be infinite and it should be theoretically possible (though not easy) to just wipe them all out and secure the area.

Of course the amount of reinforcements, especially in the later waves (they shouldn't all be front-loaded...), should be enough to overwhelm the player if you aren't ridiculously well-armed.

[Goldhawk]

Originally posted by zavian:

I like the different mission types, but I'm not a fan of the 'infinite enemies spawn after X turns' mechanic. I would like to see an options toggle to turn it off or at least have limited enemy spawns, as in my opinion it simply isn't a fun mechanic when it's an infinite spam of enemies

Yeah, we'll be adding options to allow you to effectively disable the timers on these missions if you really want to.

[zavian]

Originally posted by Goldhawk:

Originally posted by zavian:

I like the different mission types, but I'm not a fan of the 'infinite enemies spawn after X turns' mechanic. I would like to see an options toggle to turn it off or at least have limited enemy spawns, as in my opinion it simply isn't a fun mechanic when it's an infinite spam of enemies

Yeah, we'll be adding options to allow you to effectively disable the timers on these missions if you really want to.

Great news! Thanks for the reply and answer!

[Alexfrog]

Originally posted by Goldhawk:

Originally posted by zavian:

I like the different mission types, but I'm not a fan of the 'infinite enemies spawn after X turns' mechanic. I would like to see an options toggle to turn it off or at least have limited enemy spawns, as in my opinion it simply isn't a fun mechanic when it's an infinite spam of enemies

Yeah, we'll be adding options to allow you to effectively disable the timers on these missions if you really want to.

Good to hear this game will become playable at some point :D

[Khan]

Options are always good.

It would be even better if there was also another option to replace the infinite enemy spawns with a finite but increasingly mean series of reinforcement waves, so you have the option (and the realism) of just killing everything, but you still have some time pressure to either do the job quickly, or else take positions (and neutralize as much of the starting opposition as possible) and prepare for the onslaught.

Of course, the enemy reinforcements shouldn't all spawn at once. They should arrive in maybe 3-4 waves of increasing nastiness. Or there could be an RNG roll after each wave (starting with the 3rd or 4th wave) to determine if there are more reinforcements coming, so eventually you can kill them all, but you never know exactly how many reinforcements are coming until they finally stop coming. (And even then, the game might not actually tell you "congratulations, you wiped out all the enemy reinforcements, and you just have to figure that out when turns pass and no more enemies show up; and there could be an RNG chance for the next wave to be delayed 10-20 turns so you think you are in the clear then suddenly you aren't. But sooner or later they will eventually run out.)

EDIT: To be clear, I don't mean new RNG rolls every few turns. That would be effectively the same as infinite spawns. What I mean is that after each wave there is one RNG roll for either a new wave, a new wave with a delay (to make you think it's over...) or no more waves, and once the result is "no more waves" then there are no more RNG rolls for the rest of that mission (though the game won't tell you that). In fact all of these rolls could be made at the start of the mission, so that saving and reloading will not change the number or timing of reinforcement waves, but that information is still kept hidden from the player, you only know "you have X turns from the mission start before reinforcements start arriving".

[thyge]

Originally posted by zavian:

I like the different mission types, but I'm not a fan of the 'infinite enemies spawn after X turns' mechanic. I would like to see an options toggle to turn it off or at least have limited enemy spawns, as in my opinion it simply isn't a fun mechanic when it's an infinite spam of enemies

agree

[LilyanaKabal]

Originally posted by Goldhawk:

Originally posted by zavian:

I like the different mission types, but I'm not a fan of the 'infinite enemies spawn after X turns' mechanic. I would like to see an options toggle to turn it off or at least have limited enemy spawns, as in my opinion it simply isn't a fun mechanic when it's an infinite spam of enemies

Yeah, we'll be adding options to allow you to effectively disable the timers on these missions if you really want to.

Absolute legend. I love you.