Crash Landing

[SirKaktus]

Hi Fellow Bomber Crews!
Anyone of you got the problem that the B17 suddenly breaks apart after trying to land with only one Landingwheel ? Never had this problem with the Lancaster ...

[CheeseCake]

yeah every landing were i have destroyed landing gear always blows up

[Howkin__]

same. if i get a missing wheel i just restart the mission. had a all green plane but missing one wheel and all my guys died in the landing

[PJ]

I think the devs should really take a look at this. Just look at all those threads. A completely intact fully upgraded maximum HP plane with just one destroyed gear is a death car for all of the crew. Nothing of the following helps: upgrading all Armour, pumping fuel into the intact wing, burning off all fuel and running on fumes, putting all guys ino safe positions etc.
I don't want to lose my plane and risk my crew I grinded so hard to upgrade just because of one destroyed wheel.

[Strelok]

Can confirm that losing any landing gear in either bomber means the aircraft will be unable to land at all without detonating on impact (regardless of the presence of a payload). Typically a crew that lost one of their landing gear would have the crew members parachute out and the pilot attempt to land without gear on the runway, resulting in destruction of part of the aircraft (usually the wing), but it was successful most of the time.

[Kim Jong Chill]

yeah ive had several crash landing but only ever one succesful in the B-17

[Ottomic]

Originally posted by Strelok:

Can confirm that losing any landing gear in either bomber means the aircraft will be unable to land at all without detonating on impact (regardless of the presence of a payload). Typically a crew that lost one of their landing gear would have the crew members parachute out and the pilot attempt to land without gear on the runway, resulting in destruction of part of the aircraft (usually the wing), but it was successful most of the time.

I've lost very few Lancasters to one wheel landings (I'd say about 50% chance for it not to be written off). Worth mentioning that losing certain chunks of the plane doesn't count as it being destroyed, such as the wingtip.

With the b17 however... yeah, I've managed to salvage one from a 1 gear landing, but the rest have been losses. Which sucks nards considering the lowered income in that campaign.

On the other hand, I've been getting guder at flying and maneuvering, and it's true that with more active input gear losses are way less frequent. Seems like the b17 campaign is addressing the facerolliness of the OG campaign by being more micro intensive regardless of equipment, it's just unfortunate that they're pairing that with being harder to recover from losses.

[boris.glevrk]

I actually had a successful... uhh sort of, single wheel landing yesterday, at least everyone survived.

[Kerbol]

The landcaster has the same issiue

[boris.glevrk]

Originally posted by Maxow:

burning off all fuel and running on fumes

The best combustion ratio of gasoline is like 1 gas to 100 air, so the more fuel you have in the tank, it's actually less likely to explode.
Burning is another story, but burning doesn't count anyway, as long as your crew survived the impact, it's good.

I just survived another single gear landing, this time without losing the plane, and yet another crash-landing, with 7 of the 9-men crew down (and a malfunctioning hydraulics so I don't think there's a working gear), and everyone, including the plane, was saved. There wasn't even a SAR dice, they just returned like nothing happened, including some of the guys well past their killing timer...

[Strelok]

Originally posted by Ottomic:

Originally posted by Strelok:

Can confirm that losing any landing gear in either bomber means the aircraft will be unable to land at all without detonating on impact (regardless of the presence of a payload). Typically a crew that lost one of their landing gear would have the crew members parachute out and the pilot attempt to land without gear on the runway, resulting in destruction of part of the aircraft (usually the wing), but it was successful most of the time.

I've lost very few Lancasters to one wheel landings (I'd say about 50% chance for it not to be written off). Worth mentioning that losing certain chunks of the plane doesn't count as it being destroyed, such as the wingtip.

With the b17 however... yeah, I've managed to salvage one from a 1 gear landing, but the rest have been losses. Which sucks nards considering the lowered income in that campaign.

On the other hand, I've been getting guder at flying and maneuvering, and it's true that with more active input gear losses are way less frequent. Seems like the b17 campaign is addressing the facerolliness of the OG campaign by being more micro intensive regardless of equipment, it's just unfortunate that they're pairing that with being harder to recover from losses.

The mechanics for landings have been altered for all aircraft, not just the B17. If you've had any craft survive one wheel or belly landings, it's certainly a fluke -- me nor anyone else I've known has managed to get any aircraft to successfully land with damaged gear after the new update. Losing any of the gear means that the entire crew bails and the bomber is a loss, hope you have money for a new one. It's odd because landing without gear was a fairly common occurance especially on RAF Woodbridge which had an extra long and thick runway designed just for this purpose -- if every bomber that lost one of its landing gear had detonated on contact with the ground, there would've been many more bombers lost.

[SirKaktus]

I think its more commen to lose a part of the Landing gear in the USAAF Campain due to the Stuka´s which shoot at you while climbing up to your altitude. Espechely at the airfield bombing Missions i often lose parts of the Landing gear.

[Ottomic]

Originally posted by Strelok:

The mechanics for landings have been altered for all aircraft, not just the B17. If you've had any craft survive one wheel or belly landings, it's certainly a fluke -- me nor anyone else I've known has managed to get any aircraft to successfully land with damaged gear after the new update.

"New update" meaning the b17 one, I assume, because I've done two full playthroughs in the weeks and to the day leading to the USAAF dlc and I must've easily landed no less than 5 Lancasters on a wheel without crashing them (only one belly landing which was indeed a loss).

Worth going through the vanilla campaign to check it out I guess. Will also look into the changelog, surely something like that has been noted there.

[Vagineer1]

At this point I've learned to just quit and restart a mission if you lose a wheel. Continuing isn't worth the time and money it takes to get a new plane and crew up to speed.

[potential energy nonbeliever]

I'm not sure what you guys are talking about. Almost every landing in the B-17 I've done with one wheel (even one where I was missing the tail and tail gunner, God rest his soul) I've mostly succeeded in not dying. All I do is move all of the crew below the cockpit.

Usually the side missing landing gear loses half a wing, but the fuselage (assuming it's not taken red/black damage already) almost always stays intact.

If you really need to, you could always have your crew bail out before you land, and take the L on the bomber itself.

[Ottomic]

Most of my 1-gear landings have ended with the plane written off, but everyone alive. At most, I'll lose one guy. It's annoying to refit a replacement though, with the lower income compared to the vanilla campaign.

By the way, and hilariously enough, I just had my first belly landing on a runway in 50 hours. It's been on a B17, and I didn't destroy the plane (bombardier didn't make it, but hey, at this point I'll take that over having to refit a plane.)

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