Illegal skins and bots (Datamon Maze)

[ThebigbangGame]

I have seen that many players are taking advantage of a serious bug in Datamon Maze (Normal and Hard). They are using illegal skins to get to Etemon and Datamon without having to complete the maze. Here's an example: Youtube Video

Now the problem gets bigger when you combine illegal skins with bots. Players can program the bot to kill Etemon continuously without needing to complete the maze thanks to illegal skins. You can find many tutorials about this on youtube. Here's a video of the evidence: Youtube Video

This bug has been here for more than a year, players can get Treasure Box easily and without having to do anything. It is also a quick way to make money by selling the items you get in the boxes. I should also say that using Macro Protector is totally useless here since you can not enter with other players, unless you are in a party.

Please do something with this problem.

[Prime]

explain to me why this need to fix this problem? like give me a few good pointers

[Dux]

Originally posted by DAT BOI:

explain to me why this need to fix this problem? like give me a few good pointers

Because you're not meant to be able to do Datamon Normal 24/7 days without interruption at an extremely fast paced manner thanks to bots and illegal skins that give you an unfair advantage over other players who want to play the game the manner it is supposed to be played in conformity with the rules?

[Perf3ct]

Originally posted by Duchess:

Originally posted by DAT BOI:

explain to me why this need to fix this problem? like give me a few good pointers

Because you're not meant to be able to do Datamon Normal 24/7 days without interruption at an extremely fast paced manner thanks to bots and illegal skins that give you an unfair advantage over other players who want to play the game the manner it is supposed to be played in conformity with the rules?

What about rich people that can afford to buy anything from the cash shop? Inst that an unfair advantage over people who cant play the game? They can just get things with a simple credit card swipe.

Also, the bot doesnt increase their speed, it makes it just effortless since it's a non stop grind and the drops for ATT boxes is like, legit 5% or something, i opened 1k boxes (Farmed by hand, believe it or not) and only got 10 ATT's.

The skin wasnt even created by players, it was a bug that the devs themselves released when they released the datamon dungeon. So its their fault this exists, and if they start a ban wave of this, it would be extremely ironic

[ThebigbangGame]

Originally posted by theperf3ct:

Originally posted by Duchess:

Because you're not meant to be able to do Datamon Normal 24/7 days without interruption at an extremely fast paced manner thanks to bots and illegal skins that give you an unfair advantage over other players who want to play the game the manner it is supposed to be played in conformity with the rules?

What about rich people that can afford to buy anything from the cash shop? Inst that an unfair advantage over people who cant play the game? They can just get things with a simple credit card swipe.

Also, the bot doesnt increase their speed, it makes it just effortless since it's a non stop grind and the drops for ATT boxes is like, legit 5% or something, i opened 1k boxes (Farmed by hand, believe it or not) and only got 10 ATT's.

The skin wasnt even created by players, it was a bug that the devs themselves released when they released the datamon dungeon. So its their fault this exists, and if they start a ban wave of this, it would be extremely ironic

You should start learning the meaning of Free to Play. DMO is still alive thanks to those players who have ever spent money in the game. If all players think like you, DMO would have been closed.

I think it is not worth arguing with a person who is defending the use of illegal programs (bots) and who takes advantage of any bug in the game.

[Perf3ct]

Originally posted by ThebigbangGame:

Originally posted by theperf3ct:

What about rich people that can afford to buy anything from the cash shop? Inst that an unfair advantage over people who cant play the game? They can just get things with a simple credit card swipe.

Also, the bot doesnt increase their speed, it makes it just effortless since it's a non stop grind and the drops for ATT boxes is like, legit 5% or something, i opened 1k boxes (Farmed by hand, believe it or not) and only got 10 ATT's.

The skin wasnt even created by players, it was a bug that the devs themselves released when they released the datamon dungeon. So its their fault this exists, and if they start a ban wave of this, it would be extremely ironic

You should start learning the meaning of Free to Play. DMO is still alive thanks to those players who have ever spent money in the game. If all players think like you, DMO would have been closed.

I think it is not worth arguing with a person who is defending the use of illegal programs (bots) and who takes advantage of any bug in the game.

How exactly did you come to the conclusion that i bot? Never have i once said i was pro botting. All i said was, it's unfair for both parties regardless of you abusing something or not. This game isnt fair for anyone.

Cashers have to spent thousands to achieve something, and normal/botter players have to farm almost constantly to get even close to the same level as cashers.


Aslo, i odnt know in which version you're playing, but the last 2 events (Not counting MM) have been insane for end game Free players. I went from 0 gear to BiS for DPS/HP.

You clearly havent played this game enough to understand how deep and how old the issues are. I've dealt with this game since it's start, and i know how F'ed up it can be regardless of you cashing, botting, or playing normal.

In the end, the incentive to not bot is long gone, and so is the incentive to cash since, indonesians got an exploit that grants them free crowns anytime. they litteraly rule the game.

They get free cash items, sell them cheap, gather Tera, sell them to the people, and then the people buy cheap items from them. Teras techincally never leave the same persons, inventory. THATS THE ISSUE EVERYONE SHOULD FOCUS, but not, they focus on botters, that, in a way, are the heart of the game, because you cant deny, the drop rates on anything that is worth your time, are as long as the IQ of 90% of the players

[FrozenBlue]

The bot part of this post is getting removed now , GMs are taking actions against Datamon botters , most of them got 7Days as starting ban. This just started recently(the bans).

About the normal mode , i think the normal shouldnt have that maze to begin with ,considering only 1% of the items in the box is actually even worth anything , spending 2-3min running around will make that dungeon very horrible . Now imagine that without a speed avatar , thats almost 5-7min of running to get 10 CC.

[Dux]

Originally posted by theperf3ct:

What about rich people that can afford to buy anything from the cash shop? Inst that an unfair advantage over people who cant play the game? They can just get things with a simple credit card swipe.

Also, the bot doesnt increase their speed, it makes it just effortless since it's a non stop grind and the drops for ATT boxes is like, legit 5% or something, i opened 1k boxes (Farmed by hand, believe it or not) and only got 10 ATT's.

The skin wasnt even created by players, it was a bug that the devs themselves released when they released the datamon dungeon. So its their fault this exists, and if they start a ban wave of this, it would be extremely ironic

It's an advantage, but it isn't an unfair one as in it in agreement with the rules of the game (using money to buy crowns). And it's an understandable one as it is something that allows the game to exist and thrive. The game simply wouldn't exist without the cash store, as the people who run it need to make money. It's their job.
But the skins do increase the overall speed, that much is undeniable. a normal player playing without the aid of illegal skins vs a bot using skins... well the bot will always be faster. I'm not sure how you can argue otherwise. A bot doesn't get tired, a bot doesn't need breaks. And by using a skin that allows you to access the bosses directly without having to go around and having to deal with the walls you will obviouslty be able to reach the bosses faster.
Regardless of who is at fault for it, it certainly wasn't the current game GMs who released them. And they've made blantantly clear they're not in agreement with these infractions.

[76561198344122709]

easier solution ! just remove datamon normal from the game.like they did with mini ete at server continent desert map due to many bot reports( kdmo doesnt have mini ete, it was a mistake made by joymax, that why we have mini ete) so if we want clean gaming enviroment, Do datamon hard mode and get attributes ,removing datamon normal will help reducing botters.Prices of atrributes will raise too bcz hard to obtain, so dont complain about items price skyrocketing .Prevent better than cure*, banning botters at datamon would not help at all bcz people will do multiples acc to bot there but removing datamon normal mode in game would help big time. Hope the devs will consider this and remove datamon normal from the game. sorry for my bad english, have a nice day :)

[Flowey The Flower]

Originally posted by dranzer20d:

easier solution ! just remove datamon normal from the game.like they did with mini ete at server continent desert map due to many bot reports( kdmo doesnt have mini ete, it was a mistake made by joymax, that why we have mini ete) so if we want clean gaming enviroment, Do datamon hard mode and get attributes ,removing datamon normal will help reducing botters.Prices of atrributes will raise too bcz hard to obtain, so dont complain about items price skyrocketing .Prevent better than cure*, banning botters at datamon would not help at all bcz people will do multiples acc to bot there but removing datamon normal mode in game would help big time. Hope the devs will consider this and remove datamon normal from the game. sorry for my bad english, have a nice day :)

They could also do that Izzy gives you daily around 5 normal passes. If you want more then you can buy it for 100M each. Since he already gives you 1 free hard pass while NPC sells it for 1T each. This would be better then remove it since you get a better chance of getting those attributes if you are not geared up enough for hard mode. Otherwise you make it harder for players to get better gears on their own when they reached that far.

Explame: A Player has AO currently at 9/9/9/9 perfect clone not at 15 yet. With just High Shinny Quad core and Shinny necklace, not Holy beast gears yet. Player can do Normal mode solo since all attacks are 100% dodged and able to find party. The later is harder since those that uses cheat skins doesn't want to give you evidence for it. So you are left with no choose then solo it in most cases. Now if the player tries Hard mode then it is not possible to do solo or find party since you are too weak.

[Perf3ct]

Originally posted by dranzer20d:

easier solution ! just remove datamon normal from the game.like they did with mini ete at server continent desert map due to many bot reports( kdmo doesnt have mini ete, it was a mistake made by joymax, that why we have mini ete) so if we want clean gaming enviroment, Do datamon hard mode and get attributes ,removing datamon normal will help reducing botters.Prices of atrributes will raise too bcz hard to obtain, so dont complain about items price skyrocketing .Prevent better than cure*, banning botters at datamon would not help at all bcz people will do multiples acc to bot there but removing datamon normal mode in game would help big time. Hope the devs will consider this and remove datamon normal from the game. sorry for my bad english, have a nice day :)

Yeah, lets remove Datamon Normal. Because Pyramid Attributes arent expensive enough. Curious of your tamer level. because no one that knows how hard it is to get a good set of attributes would suggest datamon to disappear

[FrozenBlue]

Originally posted by dranzer20d:

easier solution ! just remove datamon normal from the game.like they did with mini ete at server continent desert map due to many bot reports( kdmo doesnt have mini ete, it was a mistake made by joymax, that why we have mini ete) so if we want clean gaming enviroment, Do datamon hard mode and get attributes ,removing datamon normal will help reducing botters.Prices of atrributes will raise too bcz hard to obtain, so dont complain about items price skyrocketing .Prevent better than cure*, banning botters at datamon would not help at all bcz people will do multiples acc to bot there but removing datamon normal mode in game would help big time. Hope the devs will consider this and remove datamon normal from the game. sorry for my bad english, have a nice day :)

Same as what Perfect said about the Attributes. Botters or not , those attributes are already super rare to get and are quite a necessity . you get 10~ random attribute boxes from 1000 Normal Boxes , same chance for Datamon Hard as well (they just give better Min value attributes) , 1000 Boxes are like not even close to get a decent value of all the attributes.
If it becomes Datamon Hard only , oh boy then there will be more people crying about the prices being 10000T , also let me tell you this Datamon Hard is bottable to if you are strong enough.
Aka . Removing Datamon Normal only hurts normal players , botters can just bot the passes of Hard mode and get those Super pricey attriobutes + a high chance at Blue vices. Double profit.

And about the Mini etemon , you are a quite poorly informed fellow . The mini etemon was no bug by joymax , it was there in KDMO to , it was removed due to the change in the Guild System where each raid gives 5 GP , since mini ete was a raid people started to farm on it , and thus it got removed from KDMO and apparently they updated it for GDMO to but the guild system never came.

[ThebigbangGame]

Originally posted by theperf3ct:

Yeah, lets remove Datamon Normal. Because Pyramid Attributes arent expensive enough. Curious of your tamer level. because no one that knows how hard it is to get a good set of attributes would suggest datamon to disappear

Datamon Maze is a place for bots. You will not see any legal players in that place, you may be lucky to find one or two players who are not using illegal bots and skins to get to Etemon without having to complete the maze.

"no one that knows how hard it is to get" Yes, it is hard for players to play without cheating, but on the other hand a player who is using bots and skins can easily get them without doing anything at all. Another detail, you pretend to have it all in one day, you simply need to have patience to get what you want. But no, the players of this community have a childish mentality, they want to have everything and be the best in the game in a single day.

I have not said to delete Datamon Maze (Normal). But I do wish there were some solution to prevent players from using bots in this place, and also the issue of illegal skins. Although I have seen that this issue has been here for more than a year, little importance is being given it seems like it does not matter ... So nothing, that players continue doing what they want with the game until they finish with it.

And you could provide some helpful suggestions instead of supporting the use of bots and bugs while diverting the topic with comments like: "What about rich people that can afford to buy anything from the cash shop?". You simply complain, it seems as if you would not have liked the idea of ​​finding a solution to this issue.

[Perf3ct]

Originally posted by ThebigbangGame:

Originally posted by theperf3ct:

Yeah, lets remove Datamon Normal. Because Pyramid Attributes arent expensive enough. Curious of your tamer level. because no one that knows how hard it is to get a good set of attributes would suggest datamon to disappear

Datamon Maze is a place for bots. You will not see any legal players in that place, you may be lucky to find one or two players who are not using illegal bots and skins to get to Etemon without having to complete the maze.

"no one that knows how hard it is to get" Yes, it is hard for players to play without cheating, but on the other hand a player who is using bots and skins can easily get them without doing anything at all. Another detail, you pretend to have it all in one day, you simply need to have patience to get what you want. But no, the players of this community have a childish mentality, they want to have everything and be the best in the game in a single day.

I have not said to delete Datamon Maze (Normal). But I do wish there were some solution to prevent players from using bots in this place, and also the issue of illegal skins. Although I have seen that this issue has been here for more than a year, little importance is being given it seems like it does not matter ... So nothing, that players continue doing what they want with the game until they finish with it.

And you could provide some helpful suggestions instead of supporting the use of bots and bugs while diverting the topic with comments like: "What about rich people that can afford to buy anything from the cash shop?". You simply complain, it seems as if you would not have liked the idea of ​​finding a solution to this issue.

You really dont know anything about this game do you? What does it matter if they fix one thing if they break 10 other things?

This game will never be bug free or bot free. Because there's always exploits that get implemented and there's always a way to bot.

Also, i didn't see anyone complain about the cookie machine bots. I wonder why.

Oh right, because it affected no one. How ironic. How about those who shout bot? I barely see people reporting those.

And to finish it, why does it matter if i suggest things, everyone gets ignored, the only point of posting suggestions is for everyone to daydream about them getting implemented, never in my 6 years or more of playing this game, seen a community suggestion getting implemented.

So yeah, no wonder only normies post stuff like this, because they are foolish enough to believe there will be a clean DMO one day. Well it will, and that will mark the end of the DMO as you know it RN. Everyone will just leave because the grind to reward ratio is absolutely insane

[󠁳⁧⁧ Youth]

Originally posted by ThebigbangGame:

I have seen that many players are taking advantage of a serious bug in Datamon Maze (Normal and Hard). They are using illegal skins to get to Etemon and Datamon without having to complete the maze. Here's an example: Youtube Video

Now the problem gets bigger when you combine illegal skins with bots. Players can program the bot to kill Etemon continuously without needing to complete the maze thanks to illegal skins. You can find many tutorials about this on youtube. Here's a video of the evidence: Youtube Video

This bug has been here for more than a year, players can get Treasure Box easily and without having to do anything. It is also a quick way to make money by selling the items you get in the boxes. I should also say that using Macro Protector is totally useless here since you can not enter with other players, unless you are in a party.

Please do something with this problem.

LoL Thats From 2015. that does not work anymore. that as been fixed along time ago

[Dux]

Originally posted by theperf3ct:

You really dont know anything about this game do you? What does it matter if they fix one thing if they break 10 other things?

This game will never be bug free or bot free. Because there's always exploits that get implemented and there's always a way to bot.

Also, i didn't see anyone complain about the cookie machine bots. I wonder why.

Oh right, because it affected no one. How ironic. How about those who shout bot? I barely see people reporting those.

And to finish it, why does it matter if i suggest things, everyone gets ignored, the only point of posting suggestions is for everyone to daydream about them getting implemented, never in my 6 years or more of playing this game, seen a community suggestion getting implemented.

So yeah, no wonder only normies post stuff like this, because they are foolish enough to believe there will be a clean DMO one day. Well it will, and that will mark the end of the DMO as you know it RN. Everyone will just leave because the grind to reward ratio is absolutely insane

Why does it matter if the police arrests a thief, if ten others will eventually appear?
Why does it matter if the firefighters put down a forestal fire, if another 10 will certainly happen sooner or later?
The answer is the same in all cases - because it's the right thing to do. Because doing things changes things, sometimes for the best sometimes for the worse. But doing nothing will only cause stagnation and the game to die in a pile of filth thanks to immoral scum.

No game will ever be bug free or bot free, but that doesn't mean the community and the staff shouldn't strive to make it as clean as possible by working together.
Yeah cookie machine bots existed, but these were relatively harmless compared to many other bots. For one because they did not affect other players or the game's economy, and because one couldn't see them to begin with. Comparing a Datamon Normal bot to a cookie interface clicking bot is bordering the ridiculous.

You're not the first to say nobody listens to suggestions and they don't get implemented, but quite frankly a few of mine have been implemented in more than one manner, so I know as a fact that isn't true. I'm not sure I have liberty to discuss it, but any GM is free to post here and confirm it for me if they feel necessary.

If all these cheaters, hackers and scum leave if the game becomes too "hard" for them to play without cheating and being "Richards" to others then I only have two - actually three - words for that - Good - [censored] - riddance.