what does it mean when your apes eyes close?

[UrsaPolaris]

Every now and then when I'm exploring I've encountered these screen overlays things happening.
Sometimes white blots appear over the screen, I believe that is my character being starting to overheat, because it tends to happen when the sun id high. not icon appears in my statuses however as it does when it is cold.
But the more baffling one is when it looks like their eyes are closing and the ape is falling asleep, it seems to happen at random, after it has slept, when it's late at night, and sometimes in the middle of the afternoon. or when running from a predator encounter when my dopamine has not run out yet.
I would think if the eyes closing would indicate sleepiness it wouldn't happen during adrenaline pumping situations or when the ape is well rested. so I am very confused as to what it means.

[SotiCoto]

Probably low stamina. Yes, it happens when you need sleep, but you can expect some serious effects when you're simply worn out from too much exercise too.
Pay attention to that circle at the bottom of the screen. It should ideally be green. As green as possible. If it is going yellow, you need to stop whatever you're doing and chill out a bit. If it is going red, eat and drink and sleep ASAP.

[Jenkins]

As I understand it, when that circle blinks red, it's shrinking permanently, for that ape.

It also often precedes actual death of ape.

That said, I've used the sleepy eyes as a warning, on long treks, to start finding a bed or camp so that once it hits red, I can be straight there.

[Catsim]

I think the white blots are just some sort of weird artistic choice with the effects because there actually is a overheat area later in the game that gives a status effect icon. And you can sleep without a bed anywhere you deem safe, like the crook of a tree branch, just clear your dominant hand and hold down the use button. Bedding outside your camp just allows you to activate neurons.

[SotiCoto]

Originally posted by Catsim:

I think the white blots are just some sort of weird artistic choice with the effects because there actually is a overheat area later in the game that gives a status effect icon. And you can sleep without a bed anywhere you deem safe, like the crook of a tree branch, just clear your dominant hand and hold down the use button. Bedding outside your camp just allows you to activate neurons.

Am I alone in making random beds in the wild so I can sleep and evolve properly? Just have to put them somewhere predators can't reach, like on top of tall rock formations or in the crook of tree branches.

[UrsaPolaris]

Originally posted by SotiCoto:

Originally posted by Catsim:

I think the white blots are just some sort of weird artistic choice with the effects because there actually is a overheat area later in the game that gives a status effect icon. And you can sleep without a bed anywhere you deem safe, like the crook of a tree branch, just clear your dominant hand and hold down the use button. Bedding outside your camp just allows you to activate neurons.

Am I alone in making random beds in the wild so I can sleep and evolve properly? Just have to put them somewhere predators can't reach, like on top of tall rock formations or in the crook of tree branches.

I do like catsim and just sleep wherever it's safe without making a bed. This blinking thing seems to happen however even after I sleep without building a bed beforehand. and tough I can't say I've paid close attention to the stamina wheel I'm pretty confident that it has not happened much while the red was being used.

[UrsaPolaris]

Originally posted by SotiCoto:

Probably low stamina. Yes, it happens when you need sleep, but you can expect some serious effects when you're simply worn out from too much exercise too.
Pay attention to that circle at the bottom of the screen. It should ideally be green. As green as possible. If it is going yellow, you need to stop whatever you're doing and chill out a bit. If it is going red, eat and drink and sleep ASAP.

After having paid attention to my stamina, this doesn't seem the case.
The status when the most recent random eye closing animations happend were
1st having slept a full night less then 3 in game hours before in a settlement having just fulfilled all needs (food, drink, sleep) and stamina completely in the green.
2nd having a partial night sleep and during/after predator attack. dopamine indicator more than half full and stamina half green half yellow.
3rd when traversing tree tops green stamina, nights rest 8 hours before.

this game puts so much emphasis on visual cues that it would be an extreme oversight if this pretty obnoxious animation happens for no reason, but I'm still no closer to finding out what it means.

[UrsaPolaris]

Originally posted by Jenkins:

As I understand it, when that circle blinks red, it's shrinking permanently, for that ape.

It also often precedes actual death of ape.

That said, I've used the sleepy eyes as a warning, on long treks, to start finding a bed or camp so that once it hits red, I can be straight there.

So far it doesn't seem to have anything to do with stamina or being close to death

Originally posted by UrsaPolaris:

After having paid attention to my stamina, this doesn't seem the case.
The status when the most recent random eye closing animations happend were
1st having slept a full night less then 3 in game hours before in a settlement having just fulfilled all needs (food, drink, sleep) and stamina completely in the green.
2nd having a partial night sleep and during/after predator attack. dopamine indicator more than half full and stamina half green half yellow.
3rd when traversing tree tops green stamina, nights rest 8 hours before.

this game puts so much emphasis on visual cues that it would be an extreme oversight if this pretty obnoxious animation happens for no reason, but I'm still no closer to finding out what it means.

[Jenkins]

just an independent sleep timer right, I think? That can affect your condition circle, even pushing it first yellow, then red until dead.

If you ignore sleep long enough, that ape can die.

[UrsaPolaris]

Originally posted by Jenkins:

just an independent sleep timer right, I think? That can affect your condition circle, even pushing it first yellow, then red until dead.

If you ignore sleep long enough, that ape can die.

okay, but three in game hours after a full nights rest? if what you're proposing is the case I'm experiencing a serious bug with it