Ancestors: The Humankind Odyssey

Ancestors: The Humankind Odyssey

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Learned Skills Grayed Out After Evolution Time Jump
I've ♥♥♥♥♥♥ decently far into the game, about 1.5 MA into the game, and I've come across an oddity that I don't know if it's a glitch or if I'm missing something. For the specific evolution skills equilibrioception, carrying ability, and now grasp control, I have lost the ability to connect any neuron strands to them after a few evolutionary jumps in time, despite having the skill below them that would allow me to connect. I have lost the ability to carry or stand up for very long and while this wasn't affecting my early game too much, now I've lost grasp control.

I don't know if this is a bug that can be fixed or not, but this seems to be the only place where these types of concerns can be raised. I'm hoping my game isn't messed up, as I've come so far at this point it would be awful if I had to restart. I'm hoping there's a simply fix or something.

Links below are to the images showing what I'm talking about and which skills they apply to. Where the "Learn" option would be white, it is gray.

https://ibb.co/TWNCWSB - Equilibrioception (Standing Up)
https://ibb.co/Rv8ppmd - Carrying Ability
https://ibb.co/SJ1Bf98 - Grasp Control
İlk olarak gönderen kişi: =NickFury=:
İlk olarak FBI Asoka tarafından gönderildi:
I don't know if this is a bug that can be fixed or not

Not a bug, so the good news is it can be fixed.

I'm sure you noticed that not all neurons just have one prerequisite skill to become unlockable. Some need a genetic mutation to become available, others need 2 or more skills to be unlocked first. In your case, you don't meet those requirements yet; you "magically" unlocked Equilibrioception without unlocking the prerequisite skills first. Now that you've changed generations, the game is looking for the required neurons (Orthostasis & Senses and Contextual Orthostasis) and notices that you don't have both, so it won't let you unlock Equilibrioception again.

Here's an image to help explain the issue:
https://imgur.com/Ly1iqid.jpg

Now take a look back at the ♥♥♥ you posted:
https://ibb.co/TWNCWSB

Do you see now why you can't unlock Equilibrioception?

If I remember correctly (it's been a while already), Orthostasis & Senses is trained by standing up and using smell or hearing, while Contextual Orthostasis is trained by standing up and using intelligence. The game provides instructions on how to train each skill anyways.

So, finally, how did you "magically" unlock a skill you didn't meet the requirements for in the first place? Simple answer, there's only one thing in the game that can do that: Meteors. Skills gained from meteors don't care about requirements, it's part of the evolutionary bonus they provide. Unfortunately for you, you didn't know, and so you didn't reinforce the skill when you had the chance. Now all you need to do is unlock it the old fashioned way, by doing the training for the required skills first.

In other words, not a bug, just the way meteors work.
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i have a full feat tree, i had that happen to me also, i had to start again also, u need to only lock in the amount u can keep, sometimes open abilities can bug, i learnt this from trial and error, on my 4th play through i finally got everything.
En son Macka tarafından düzenlendi; 23 Eyl 2019 @ 15:26
İlk olarak jgtogi tarafından gönderildi:
You have to lock in your nodes by switching generations. Your tree is a hot mess otherwise. Unless it is a bug what happened is you lost an ape/breed out a mutation and thus no longer have the precursor gene to put energy into that node. You can earn the node back by maturing it by walking in shallow water, altering sticks and striking an enemy. You should get those nodes back you just have to work for them. You lost your freebies somehow.

You are actually given a prompt when you do an evolution that any unbanked mutations and unborn babies will be lost. You just need to switch generations more and lock in those genes. That way you aren't getting rid of of earlier mutations that are dependant on other mutations. It shouldn't really happen but spontaneous mutations break several rules so there you have it.
it doesn't work what you say
yes it does
i had to restart my game 4 times m8 , so i dont know what crack your on.
u have people here complaining the game is broken, And it is, i just worked my around the bug that DOES exist.
oh and BTW on my 4th attempt , im 4 nodes short, i have all the mutations yet cant get the nureon to pop, so the game is broken. end of story. no matter how much smelling i do i cant get the last 2 nodes. and my concentration ability, wont pop either.
En son Macka tarafından düzenlendi; 24 Eyl 2019 @ 0:27
never had so much BS with a game that i had to restart because of bad programming and coding. not my fault :)
not sure ob this working but i have use stick by the rocks and for fishing and than i have learn Contextual Orthostasis
En son multikill tarafından düzenlendi; 24 Eyl 2019 @ 5:11
Bu konunun sahibi, bu iletinin ilk konuyu cevapladığını belirtti.
İlk olarak FBI Asoka tarafından gönderildi:
I don't know if this is a bug that can be fixed or not

Not a bug, so the good news is it can be fixed.

I'm sure you noticed that not all neurons just have one prerequisite skill to become unlockable. Some need a genetic mutation to become available, others need 2 or more skills to be unlocked first. In your case, you don't meet those requirements yet; you "magically" unlocked Equilibrioception without unlocking the prerequisite skills first. Now that you've changed generations, the game is looking for the required neurons (Orthostasis & Senses and Contextual Orthostasis) and notices that you don't have both, so it won't let you unlock Equilibrioception again.

Here's an image to help explain the issue:
https://imgur.com/Ly1iqid.jpg

Now take a look back at the ♥♥♥ you posted:
https://ibb.co/TWNCWSB

Do you see now why you can't unlock Equilibrioception?

If I remember correctly (it's been a while already), Orthostasis & Senses is trained by standing up and using smell or hearing, while Contextual Orthostasis is trained by standing up and using intelligence. The game provides instructions on how to train each skill anyways.

So, finally, how did you "magically" unlock a skill you didn't meet the requirements for in the first place? Simple answer, there's only one thing in the game that can do that: Meteors. Skills gained from meteors don't care about requirements, it's part of the evolutionary bonus they provide. Unfortunately for you, you didn't know, and so you didn't reinforce the skill when you had the chance. Now all you need to do is unlock it the old fashioned way, by doing the training for the required skills first.

In other words, not a bug, just the way meteors work.
I'm not sure if that works for everyone but with me has helped ...

Make 5x spear and use 2x dead bough, 2x stick and 2x spear as tool, lift 2x stone and fish twice

so maybe you dont need meteors
Nick Fury with the excellent and accurate answer!

It's true, as Nick says. You can gain the prerequisites for certain, special Neurons, and then lose them because you didn't lock them in and when you changed Generations. It's not a bug, but without the needed prompts to warn players of their permanent choices, it may as well be.

Meteors can not only provide bonus Reinforcements, but finding them can actually give you special neurons you can't get elsewhere and ***can only "get" once***.

***Unconfirmed. But since you only discover each meteor once, I'm assuming this, Please correct me if I'm wrong.
En son Joonyah tarafından düzenlendi; 24 Eyl 2019 @ 5:56
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