A small question on Conrad...

[XspartanTT]

So guys minor spoilers here... but still spoilers!
I've decided to let him live [conrad] in this playthrough , but in the end he dies under the truck that kate is driving... I thought it was his normal ending but then on wikipedia discovered that it was me that didn't press the right button quickly enough and he sacrifices himself to save Javi, but i thought i pressed it and really quick. So before i replay the whole episode for 1 ♥♥♥♥ing thing that might be buggy, does Conrad get to be alive and useful into episode 5?

[NecroMaster]

If Conrad survives episode 4 he doesn’t play any sort of role in episode 5.

However he makes a brief appearance at the end as an accepted citizen of the new frontier that javi is now running.

[XspartanTT]

Originally posted by Wilson the Gentleman Scientist.:

If Conrad survives episode 4 he doesn’t play any sort of role in episode 5.

However he makes a brief appearance at the end as an accepted citizen of the new frontier that javi is now running.

Hey thanks, was hoping for something different, but i'll just stay with the Conrad died a hero in my story.

[XspartanTT]

Originally posted by ironfist9919:

Originally posted by XspartanTT:

Hey thanks, was hoping for something different, but i'll just stay with the Conrad died a hero in my story.

Even though he doesn't play a role it still might be worth it to save him. He does give you extra dialogue and special stats if you keep him alive until the end.

Well i don't think i'm going back to try it , i ve been playng the telltale storybuilder recently, and as it seems, nothing in the new frontier matters.... I really hope i'm mistaken.

[Frostbite]

He practically takes your niece hostage to guarantee the use of a 12 yo girl as a bargain chip to trade her for medical supplies, and you let him live?

And here i thought, im the most pacifist person i know. I really would like to read your motive or thoughts about this(I really love talking about moral/ethic situations, it will be an honest discussion promise).

[XspartanTT]

Originally posted by Frostbite:

He practically takes your niece hostage to guarantee the use of a 12 yo girl as a bargain chip to trade her for medical supplies, and you let him live?

And here i thought, im the most pacifist person i know. I really would like to read your motive or thoughts about this(I really love talking about moral/ethic situations, it will be an honest discussion promise).

I was just doing a re-run at the time, and wanted to check every possibilities, in fact Conrad may do something evil but eventually manages to redeem himself later on, which was good until he died in my playthrough because i wasn't fast enough, and ruined everything.

[Double.Dose]

Originally posted by Frostbite:

He practically takes your niece hostage to guarantee the use of a 12 yo girl as a bargain chip to trade her for medical supplies, and you let him live?

And here i thought, im the most pacifist person i know. I really would like to read your motive or thoughts about this(I really love talking about moral/ethic situations, it will be an honest discussion promise).

The guy's wife had very recently died, and he was being very brazen. He thought he was doing the right thing and helping the group when he insisted on using Clem as a bargaining chip. Remember, the characters had JUST learned that Clem was an ex-New Frontier member. Conrad has zero reason to trust her.

Also, from what I've read, keeping him alive is a good thing.

[Vladislak]

Originally posted by Double.Dose:

Originally posted by Frostbite:

He practically takes your niece hostage to guarantee the use of a 12 yo girl as a bargain chip to trade her for medical supplies, and you let him live?

And here i thought, im the most pacifist person i know. I really would like to read your motive or thoughts about this(I really love talking about moral/ethic situations, it will be an honest discussion promise).

The guy's wife had very recently died, and he was being very brazen. He thought he was doing the right thing and helping the group when he insisted on using Clem as a bargaining chip. Remember, the characters had JUST learned that Clem was an ex-New Frontier member. Conrad has zero reason to trust her.

Also, from what I've read, keeping him alive is a good thing.

While I get what you're saying, he DOES shoot both Gabe and Javi if you hesitate to shoot him or agree with him. He was fully ready and committed to murdering an innocent (albeit obnoxious) 14 year old kid and Javi if you don't agree with his plan. Neither Gabe nor Javi had anything to do with the group that killed his wife but he chooses to make them the ones he threatens with death.

And while he had no reason to trust Clem he had no legitimate reason to mistrust her, he just learned that she had been in New Frontier and immediately jumped on the assumption that she must be scum that he can exploit rather than listen to reason. He immediately decides to threaten a child with death to force others to go along with his plan rather than actually discuss things rationally with the group.

His wife died? Yeah. So did Mariana, and she was killed by the New Frontier too. Hell pretty much everyone in this world has lost loved ones, and loses them frequently. They'd just recently watched an entire community get destroyed, a community that almost certainly contained close friends for people like Tripp and Eleanor.

Conrad isn't unique in having lost loved ones, or even having lost loved ones recently, but other people are actually willing to talk things out and not immediately jump to holding an innocent kid at gunpoint. It's one thing to assume the worst about Clem, it's an entirely different matter to shoot two unrelated people one of whom is a kid.

I don't doubt that he can 'redeem' himself later and do good, but that doesn't mean I'm gonna hesitate when he puts a gun to my nephew's head. I don't care if he was just emotional and being brazen, in fact that makes it worse since he's more likely to do something stupid like shoot Gabe. I don't feel even a little bit of regret over the decision to shoot him, I feel sad that he decided to do something so stupid, but I don't regret my reaction. He's the one who decided he'd kill an innocent child if I don't agree with him, so he gets no sympathy from me.