The Walking Dead: A New Frontier

The Walking Dead: A New Frontier

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The Writting In Season is... Really bad.
Okay, to begin with, I'm not one of those idiots who thinks the game is bad because you can't play as Clem, I think Javier is a cool character (the only likable character in this whole forsaken game) but... After finishing Episode 4 I gotta say, The writing sucks. the dialogue is terrible, it feels like a badly written fanfiction, what happened to the amazing writing team that gave us the first two games ???

My interest for the Walking Dead is officially dead (no pun intended)
after the show as gone to♥♥♥♥♥♥after season 3 now the games too?

Characters in this game don't make any sense, one scene they're likable and make sense, and out of nowhere they act like F'''ing R''ta'rds and are completely unlikable in the next scene.

Clem as become a really generic and boring character, every other character is insufferable (Trip was cool in the first 2 episodes and then he became a completely different character in episode 3 and 4)



There are so many cheesy moments that in the middle of episode 4 I just wanted to turn off the ♥♥♥♥ing game.

Your choices don't matter, which I never understood why in a telltale game (the graphics basic, there's no real gameplay) why can't they make a multiple story branch game. Spoiler: why do they have to kill every character from the previous seasons (very stupidly may I add) Because they're too lazy to write them in, they decided to do an ending with multipath for season 2 and they immediately regretted it.

why does a game like Mass effect or the witcher that have complete gameplay and good graphics make your choices matter more than a telltale game which the only gameplay is making choices.

They're not a small company anymore, they should focus on one big game instead of trying to release 14 games every year.

And I'm not just being nostalgic here... I replayed the first two games before I started to play New frontier, There are so many good, emotional well written moments in the first 2 games, (especially season 1) what happened !!!?

The main villain is completely boring and poorly written, she doesn't look threatening or believable at all.

Anyway, I'm really curious. what do you guys think about the writing, I'm genuinely curious and interested in having a discussion, tell me if you think I'm wrong
Last edited by TywinLannister64; May 1, 2017 @ 12:14am
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The writing is atrocious.

Tales from the Borderlands was great. Wolf Among Us was good. TWD's first season was good.

TT's latest output- Game of Thrones, Batman, and this season of TWD - has been absolutely terrible IMO.

Not sure what the decline in writing quality can be attributed to, but whatever it is, I hope it's temporary.
Last edited by disconcertinglymoist; May 1, 2017 @ 12:34am
Originally posted by ‖ǤǤ‖ disconcertingly moist:
The writing is atrocious.

Tales from the Borderlands was great. Wolf Among Us was good. TWD's first season was good.

TT's latest output- Game of Thrones, Batman, and this season of TWD - has been absolutely terrible IMO.

Not sure what the decline in writing quality can be attributed to, but whatever it is, I hope it's temporary.

Their main writers quit and were replaced with freelance writers and playwrights, I'm not joking.
Originally posted by pigeon:
Originally posted by ‖ǤǤ‖ disconcertingly moist:
The writing is atrocious.

Tales from the Borderlands was great. Wolf Among Us was good. TWD's first season was good.

TT's latest output- Game of Thrones, Batman, and this season of TWD - has been absolutely terrible IMO.

Not sure what the decline in writing quality can be attributed to, but whatever it is, I hope it's temporary.

Their main writers quit and were replaced with freelance writers and playwrights, I'm not joking.

:(

It's Bioware all over again ;-;
Last edited by disconcertinglymoist; May 1, 2017 @ 1:25am
|LIS|☣Alex☣ May 1, 2017 @ 1:05am 
Originally posted by TywinLannister64:
Okay, to begin with, I'm not one of those idiots who thinks the game is bad because you can't play as Clem, I think Javier is a cool character (the only likable character in this whole forsaken game) but... After finishing Episode 4 I gotta say, The writing sucks. the dialogue is terrible, it feels like a badly written fanfiction, what happened to the amazing writing team that gave us the first two games ???

My interest for the Walking Dead is officially dead (no pun intended)
after the show as gone to♥♥♥♥♥♥after season 3 now the games too?

Characters in this game don't make any sense, one scene they're likable and make sense, and out of nowhere they act like F'''ing R''ta'rds and are completely unlikable in the next scene.

Clem as become a really generic and boring character, every other character is insufferable (Trip was cool in the first 2 episodes and then he became a completely different character in episode 3 and 4)



There are so many cheesy moments that in the middle of episode 4 I just wanted to turn off the ♥♥♥♥ing game.

Your choices don't matter, which I never understood why in a telltale game (the graphics basic, there's no real gameplay) why can't they make a multiple story branch game. Spoiler: why do they have to kill every character from the previous seasons (very stupidly may I add) Because they're too lazy to write them in, they decided to do an ending with multipath for season 2 and they immediately regretted it.

why does a game like Mass effect or the witcher that have complete gameplay and good graphics make your choices matter more than a telltale game which the only gameplay is making choices.

They're not a small company anymore, they should focus on one big game instead of trying to release 14 games every year.

And I'm not just being nostalgic here... I replayed the first two games before I started to play New frontier, There are so many good, emotional well written moments in the first 2 games, (especially season 1) what happened !!!?

The main villain is completely boring and poorly written, she doesn't look threatening or believable at all.

Anyway, I'm really curious. what do you guys think about the writing, I'm genuinely curious and interested in having a discussion, tell me if you think I'm wrong


Yeah, start this discussion by calling us idiots... that's good start to get more hates on this discussion. Anyway yeah, it's true that choices doesn't matter and gameplay could be better, but they are working at 5 games at once. I readed about their work and it's not easy. I don't see point to keep this discussion open, many dudes talked about this. If got problem with TLT write to them, not on steam. I pissed too on TLT, how did they messed up new season, but I can't do nothing about that.
Rose May 1, 2017 @ 2:43am 
No wonder Season 1 remains the best, they had their best writers on board who actually knew what they were doing. Season 2 was okay, better than Frontier for sure but it doesn't surpass 1. I seriously hope the next season will improve and they bring on more experienced writers. Not just the writing either, I want to see choices that actually have consequences, and characters that don't sh*t on you for every choice you make. They need to bring something new to the table.

I reckon their next walking dead game will be another spin off like 400 days was and Michonne. I don't know if New Frontier is Season 3 but it might as well be.

I hope The Wolf Among Us S2 is out before anything else though, that game deserves a sequel - although with the current state of writing on New Frontier, I'm worried.
Last edited by Rose; May 1, 2017 @ 2:43am
Flamma May 1, 2017 @ 3:46am 
Originally posted by TywinLannister64:
Okay, to begin with, I'm not one of those idiots who thinks the game is bad because you can't play as Clem, I think Javier is a cool character (the only likable character in this whole forsaken game) but... After finishing Episode 4 I gotta say, The writing sucks. the dialogue is terrible, it feels like a badly written fanfiction, what happened to the amazing writing team that gave us the first two games ???

My interest for the Walking Dead is officially dead (no pun intended)
after the show as gone to♥♥♥♥♥♥after season 3 now the games too?

Characters in this game don't make any sense, one scene they're likable and make sense, and out of nowhere they act like F'''ing R''ta'rds and are completely unlikable in the next scene.

Clem as become a really generic and boring character, every other character is insufferable (Trip was cool in the first 2 episodes and then he became a completely different character in episode 3 and 4)



There are so many cheesy moments that in the middle of episode 4 I just wanted to turn off the ♥♥♥♥ing game.

Your choices don't matter, which I never understood why in a telltale game (the graphics basic, there's no real gameplay) why can't they make a multiple story branch game. Spoiler: why do they have to kill every character from the previous seasons (very stupidly may I add) Because they're too lazy to write them in, they decided to do an ending with multipath for season 2 and they immediately regretted it.

why does a game like Mass effect or the witcher that have complete gameplay and good graphics make your choices matter more than a telltale game which the only gameplay is making choices.

They're not a small company anymore, they should focus on one big game instead of trying to release 14 games every year.

And I'm not just being nostalgic here... I replayed the first two games before I started to play New frontier, There are so many good, emotional well written moments in the first 2 games, (especially season 1) what happened !!!?

The main villain is completely boring and poorly written, she doesn't look threatening or believable at all.

Anyway, I'm really curious. what do you guys think about the writing, I'm genuinely curious and interested in having a discussion, tell me if you think I'm wrong

I completely agree with what you said, i find it funny that most of the people can't see what it's happening with Telltale right now, especially those who say that this season is well written, all 'choices´ so far have been an illusion of choice, like in prescott, if you dont shoot the NF soldiers, Clementine will, so what's the point of letting me choose if the outcome it's going to be same, if Telltale wants something to happen it's going to happen regardless of your choice, like in episode 4 with Tripp, he gets pissed at me for killing Conrad, then in the trial i choose to save Ava, yet when Javi wants to help Clementine when she is pinned down by NF soldiers, Tripp for some magical reason seems to forget all of that and decides to help.

Honestly, the only reason of why i'm still playing it's because of Clementine, being someone who played season 1 and 2 i just want to see how her story will end.


afsb May 1, 2017 @ 6:51am 
Originally posted by TywinLannister64:
why does a game like Mass effect or the witcher that have complete gameplay and good graphics make your choices matter more than a telltale game which the only gameplay is making choices.

Because unlike Telltale's games, Mass Effect and The Witcher aren't low-budget episodic games.
littleChama May 1, 2017 @ 1:31pm 
Honestly if every single choice did indeed matter making you go a different branch on the story you would have a different game for every 100 people that are playing besides a complex and long story.
A concept like that would take years to make and would never be split in 5 episodes just because of the amount of work it would be.

So yep, don't expect the scripted storylines to end in a episodic game.
TywinLannister64 May 1, 2017 @ 2:03pm 
Originally posted by ‖ǤǤ‖ disconcertingly moist:
Originally posted by pigeon:

Their main writers quit and were replaced with freelance writers and playwrights, I'm not joking.

:(

It's Bioware all over again ;-;

Have you played andromeda ? this is even worst than this season of the walking dead lol

Just got a refund for mass effect , just gonna keep playing the original trilogy I guess
TywinLannister64 May 1, 2017 @ 2:11pm 
Originally posted by blizza:
Honestly if every single choice did indeed matter making you go a different branch on the story you would have a different game for every 100 people that are playing besides a complex and long story.
A concept like that would take years to make and would never be split in 5 episodes just because of the amount of work it would be.

So yep, don't expect the scripted storylines to end in an episodic game.


I still think they can make some of your choice matter, just look at the witcher, not every choices mater, but enough for me to have multiple playthroughs.
littleChama May 1, 2017 @ 2:18pm 
Originally posted by TywinLannister64:
Originally posted by blizza:
Honestly if every single choice did indeed matter making you go a different branch on the story you would have a different game for every 100 people that are playing besides a complex and long story.
A concept like that would take years to make and would never be split in 5 episodes just because of the amount of work it would be.

So yep, don't expect the scripted storylines to end in an episodic game.


I still think they can make some of your choice matter, just look at the witcher, not every choices mater, but enough for me to have multiple playthroughs.

Still it would take Telltale to complete focus on one game instead of 6 or 5 like they do. But to be fair this season actually have some weight on your choices like Conrad can still be alive by the end of EP 4 if you did the right choices.
It's very minor but it's something. I'm more concerned about the bad/same formula writting like you said instead of choices.
It's always a community with the ultimate villain.
If it wasn't for Clementine and all stuff from the other seasons this season would be very skippable.
TywinLannister64 May 1, 2017 @ 2:20pm 
Originally posted by blizza:
Originally posted by TywinLannister64:


I still think they can make some of your choice matter, just look at the witcher, not every choices mater, but enough for me to have multiple playthroughs.

Still it would take Telltale to complete focus on one game instead of 6 or 5 like they do. But to be fair this season actually have some weight on your choices like Conrad can still be alive by the end of EP 4 if you did the right choices.
It's very minor but it's something. I'm more concerned about the bad/same formula writting like you said instead of choices.
It's always a community with the ultimate villain.
If it wasn't for Clementine and all stuff from the other seasons this season would be very skippable.


Couldn't agree more, They need to hire actual writters
Reyson Fox May 2, 2017 @ 8:56pm 
After years waiting this is bad in my honest opinion. I could have written a better story. Because I would have had 3 years since Episode 2 to make something worth going through!

I think TWD is running its course in both the games and the show.
Last edited by Reyson Fox; May 2, 2017 @ 8:57pm
TywinLannister64 May 2, 2017 @ 9:04pm 
Originally posted by Reyson Fox:
After years waiting this is bad in my honest opinion. I could have written a better story. Because I would have had 3 years since Episode 2 to make something worth going through!

I think TWD is running its course in both the games and the show.
The show as run its course a long time ago for me, Game of thrones for me thx
papijeerus May 4, 2017 @ 1:12am 
TWD A New Frontier writing isn't that bad but wish the episodes were longer and get you hooked on like previous franchise like TWD S1 and S2. :Lee:
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