Diagnosis room frustration

[Kotih]

i get the gp diagnosis room gp treatment cycle, i also know some rooms use nurses or doctors and some require things etc.

but theres alot of diagnosis rooms to choose from and all the game really says is it hey we diagnose things, wiki isnt much help either. does it matter what you have? can u jsut go with one type? do you need them all? why do i have 5 general diagnosis rooms and 5 cardio rooms, with entirely empty queues but my ONE dna lab i accedently set to diagnose and treat has a queue of 30?!

do some rooms diagnose better than others? they're certainly bigger....
i read a guide to avoid dna scanner cause its too slow, but it seams the game will use it exclusively if its there
im very confused and given the game auto route patients, and how little info there is on them, not really sure what i should have. gotten to the point i just use general diagnosis and nothing else so the queues actually balance properly
can only phyciatrists properly diagnose the illnesses they treat? or can i skip them (set to only treatment) with a good gp like i do ward and DNA patients?

i get all the other rooms, just not these.
(General Diagnosis, Cardiology, xray, mega scan, dna lab(diagnosis), ward(diagnosis),
Psychiatry(diagnosis), EDIT: forgot Fluid analasys


oh and are the diagnosis boosting furnature worth it? +1% diagnosis power, so even 100 of them only doubles your doctor's power? or would 100 of them make all diagnosis succeed, lol

i already use trained up doctors with gp5 and nurses with diagnose 5, cost willing...

[Kunovega]

Different diseases are diagnosed faster by different rooms. The higher the gp skill the more likely that gp will send the patient to the right room to be done faster. A wrong choice sends them to the wrong room and doesn't diagnose as quickly. A patient visits gp between each diagnostic room for review. The gp is the only diagnostic they will visit more than once.

The faster a person is diagnosed the fewer rooms they will visit, the faster they will pay for treatment and stop filling up your wait times

If a patient makes it through all available diagnostic room types without a full diagnosis you fail and can't treat them, they tied up all your wait times and won't even be paying for treatment which is the big money, they just leave

You should have one of each diagnostic type available and then more of whichever is being used the most, assuming your gp's are skilled enough to be sending them to the right room for each disease.Every hospital will have different diagnostic and treatment rooms that get used the most based on local sickness types

As for diagnostic boosting items, i usually aim for 10% it's a noticeable improvement without wasting money or floor space trying to get higher.

[Kotih]

is it posible to boost gp enough to not need the diagnosis rooms? sometimes they get it first try

[Kunovega]

No, the minimum is gp and one correct diagnostic room

They will also visit gp again by default before sending to treatment, but you can skip the final gp with the policy settings change

[Kotih]

yeah, i usually only turn that on if i have good enough staff lol
ok so sumary, all illnesses have prefered rooms, but CAN use any, at a penalty, so picking a room type and sticking with it is doable but slows things down conciderably, looks like i got a spreadsheet to make so see which rooms are worth it to me

[Kotih]

thanks btw, should have said that before

[Kunovega]

Originally posted by Kotih:

yeah, i usually only turn that on if i have good enough staff lol
ok so sumary, all illnesses have prefered rooms, but CAN use any, at a penalty, so picking a room type and sticking with it is doable but slows things down conciderably, looks like i got a spreadsheet to make so see which rooms are worth it to me

Well if you only have one and it fails that patient is sent home, if you have other types they cycle until diagnosed or you run out of new rooms.

You can add them as the hospital grows but you really do want them all

As for dna being slow, remember it's both diagnostic and treatment, if you have a lot that need it for diagnostic you should mark one diagnosis only and have another for treatment if needed.

Ward and psychiatrist can also be separated if you are being efficient

[greenknightaus]

Originally posted by Kotih:

is it posible to boost gp enough to not need the diagnosis rooms? sometimes they get it first try

Yes you can, but to do it reliably you need GP with 5 GP skill levels and 386 medicine cabinets. Not worth it for most of us, I'd suggest, and because of the space needed, not even possible in most hospitals. It's all explained here: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1519429114. You can get a spreadsheet with the effectiveness of all diagnostic rooms there too.

My advice is to set up a marketing room that focuses on a particular illness (I like Grey Anatomy, when it's available, unless the scenario needs me to focus on something else). Then set up your diagnostic rooms and treatment rooms to deal mainly with that illness.

Another way to look at it is to realize you don't really need additional diagnosis rooms for the easy to diagnose illnesses, so just build them to deal with the hardest illnesses to diagnose that come into your hospital. And when it comes to the hardest to diagnose illnesses in the main game at least, the Mega Scanner and/or the DNA clinic are usually your best options. That said, Gurning Loins, Goobris and Jellied Feels are arguably the three hardest illnesses to diagnose in the game, and the best diagnosis room for them is General Diagnosis.

[Kotih]

somehow i skipped right over that guide... i feel silly.... o.o lol thanks for that

[Tea ♡]

Originally posted by Kunovega:

The higher the gp skill the more likely that gp will send the patient to the right room to be done faster.

I have all my GPs doctor qualification at least GP diagnosis level 3. few of them are already at level 5. I built diagnosis rooms close to the GP office.

yet, my GPs are still overload :(

I'm at Grockle Bay. Any tips?

[greenknightaus]

Grockle Bay has heaps of hard to diagnose illnesses, so it's easy to get into a situation like that. In the short term, I recommend you go to Finances->Overview->Policy and set your Diagnosis Threshold for Treatment to 50. That will at least keep the money coming in, but you'll get more ghosts and you probably won't win the scenario this way.

For that, I suggest you build one or two marketing rooms (fully staffed) and have them work on Pharmacy campaigns. The two pharmacy illnesses you have in this scenario (Verbal Diarrhoea and Misery Guts) are relatively easy to diagnose and cure (maybe have a couple of Cardio rooms to help with Misery Guts), and focusing on these illnesses should make your diagnosis queues clear up and keep your cure rate high. When most of your patients are going to the pharmacy and your diagnosis queues are sorted, you can set the Diagnosis Threshold back to 90.

The illnesses you will encounter here means you should build many different diagnosis rooms. It's not overkill IMO to build all of them, with several copies of the rooms that get used the most. The DNA Lab and M.E.G.A Scan in particular are strongly recommended because they are the best at diagnosing the most troublesome illnesses you'll have to deal with.

[JVC]

Originally posted by greenknightaus:

The DNA Lab and M.E.G.A Scan in particular are strongly recommended because they are the best at diagnosing the most troublesome illnesses you'll have to deal with.

Leaving the noble idea of healing the sick aside, the DNA Lab and M.E.G.A. Scan also bring in more money per patient than e.g. General Diagnostics. So even if your patients may waste a bit of time undergoing an extra diagnosis, you make 5,000 $ on a DNA Lab treatment.

[Kunovega]

Originally posted by JVC:

Originally posted by greenknightaus:

The DNA Lab and M.E.G.A Scan in particular are strongly recommended because they are the best at diagnosing the most troublesome illnesses you'll have to deal with.

Leaving the noble idea of healing the sick aside, the DNA Lab and M.E.G.A. Scan also bring in more money per patient than e.g. General Diagnostics. So even if your patients may waste a bit of time undergoing an extra diagnosis, you make 5,000 $ on a DNA Lab treatment.

Diagnosis and treatment costs are not the same thing

A diagnosis in dna lab pays less than a treatment in dna lab

[OldGamer]

Originally posted by Kunovega:

No, the minimum is gp and one correct diagnostic room

They will also visit gp again by default before sending to treatment, but you can skip the final gp with the policy settings change

Thats incorrect. You can do GP only. But if you want to build a GPO with x365 (I think it is) medicine cabs then be my guest :)

But there is a way to totally skip diagnosis. Think about it, simple illnesses are done in one shot all the time. All you need to do is get that to be played out by the most hardest.