Denuvo? What is the point?

[BernyMoon]

Why would they use denuvo when people were playing for free before the people who paid for it? Now that the game is on skydrow, please remove the stupid and useless denuvo.

[Doctor Proteus]

To stop pirates, but anyone who knows what is going on knows that they cannot be stopped no matter what you try.

To learn if you can make a game unpiratable or an anti-piracy method uncrackable, simply answer this question.

"Was it programmed on a computer?"

If you answered yes to this question, then your game can be pirated and your anti-piracy measure can be cracked! No exceptions!

[Pheace]

The purpose is to delay the crack, they're not naieve enough that they can stop it entirely.

Unity Denuvo (Two Points Hospital) is baby Denuvo, it was implemented on a DLL rather than the EXE. All they did was replace the DLL and the game was cracked. Jurassic World's going on 3 months uncracked atm, Monster Hunter 20+ days, Yakuzo 0 as well. They probably already got their money's worth.

[Redronn]

Because publishers/devs think they'll make more money with additional DRM, despite there being no way to confirm that, and the opposite is more likely true. I pirated this game first, then bought it.

I assume many people do the same, because it's more convenient than buying a game and having 2 hours time to test if you like it or not. Buying a game to test it out just isn't an attractive concept.

[Pheace]

Redronn původně napsal:

Because publishers/devs think they'll make more money with additional DRM, despite there being no way to confirm that, and the opposite is more likely true. I pirated this game first, then bought it. Many people do the same.

There's also people who only buy what they can't pirate, or pirate something and satisfy their hyp ethat way and resign to buying a game on a sale at some point in the future when they would've bought on release if they hadn't had the opportunity to play yet.

I agree there's nex to no way to confirm the effects though.

[Tarnen]

BernyMoon původně napsal:

Why would they use denuvo when people were playing for free before the people who paid for it? Now that the game is on skydrow, please remove the stupid and useless denuvo.

Denuvo works as Malware and Steam dont care about it. But i hope we will have a solution soon.

[Akanaro]

As I stated elsewhere the problem right now is that Denuvo can be easily bypassed by swapping out the protected Windows .dll files for the unprotected Linux .dll files. If they can't find a way to prevent this then there really is no point in using Denuvo. This seems to be a loophole specific to Unity games that has both a Windows and Linux version on the market. Personally I don't care either way but yeah, if there's no way to stop people from simply using the Linux .dll files it would probably be better PR wise to just remove it all together,

[Dax_B]

Pheace původně napsal:

The purpose is to delay the crack, they're not naieve enough that they can stop it entirely.

Unity Denuvo (Two Points Hospital) is baby Denuvo, it was implemented on a DLL rather than the EXE. All they did was replace the DLL and the game was cracked. Jurassic World's going on 3 months uncracked atm, Monster Hunter 20+ days, Yakuzo 0 as well. They probably already got their money's worth.

Exactly this.

No one in the industry actually believes it's the perfect protection but it's the strongest attempt at providing a solution. It's something that's allowed more AAA publishers to least attempt doing PC releases and in some cases same day/date release as console, which was unheard of 10 years ago.

If it protects the initial window (and they admit themselves they took some blows) then it's done it's job, even if it's managed to be "defeated" months down the line.


There's an interesting interview here with some Denuvo reps that came out.


https://www.pcgamer.com/denuvo-says-there-is-no-uncrackable-product/

[Orion Invictus]

128K původně napsal:

Pheace původně napsal:

The purpose is to delay the crack, they're not naieve enough that they can stop it entirely.

Unity Denuvo (Two Points Hospital) is baby Denuvo, it was implemented on a DLL rather than the EXE. All they did was replace the DLL and the game was cracked. Jurassic World's going on 3 months uncracked atm, Monster Hunter 20+ days, Yakuzo 0 as well. They probably already got their money's worth.

Exactly this.

No one in the industry actually believes it's the perfect protection but it's the strongest attempt at providing a solution. It's something that's allowed more AAA publishers to least attempt doing PC releases and in some cases same day/date release as console, which was unheard of 10 years ago.

If it protects the initial window (and they admit themselves they took some blows) then it's done it's job, even if it's managed to be "defeated" months down the line.


There's an interesting interview here with some Denuvo reps that came out.


https://www.pcgamer.com/denuvo-says-there-is-no-uncrackable-product/

It's done nothing. The publishers know this, but they want you to swallow that propaganda, which is why they buried a report from the EU that explicitly shows that piracy has no effect on sales.