Diagnose or Treatment

[Venatacia]

Ability to specify diagnosis or treatment for rooms that can handle both (Ward, Psychiatry and DNA).

Can someone kindly explain this new feature for me please. I'm trying to think why I need one or the other.

Ward management skill does both. If you did one ward with diagnosis and one ward with treatment only, wouldn't we have more fail attempts?. Same with psychiatry.

DNA far as I can tell only needs diagnosis, not treatment.

Not sure if i'm getting this part of the great update.

[Wolf Knight]

DNA, Ward, and Psych are used to diag and treat patients. you can now set a room to just treat, or just diag. The DNA lab was the major complaint because you needed Genetic training (and it gave no bonus) just to work in that room. it was a very expensive room, and the only one where you had 1 level of training (ward could be trained to 5, psych to 5, genetics to 1).

so you where dumping about 50k into a room (before you even upgraded the machine) and you had to decide if you wanted to train treatment or diag on your doctors just to use it effectively. and there was no reason to train diag on a doctor who was working in the DNA lab, since that would mean patients would be dying because you couldnt treat them. and once you built the room, it would start to get flooded with diag patients that would clog it up and your DNA treatment patients would die waiting in the que for the room, unless you wanted to dump more money into more DNA labs and get more doctors with genetics training just to be able to use the room.

[milkygirl]

Originally posted by Venatacia:

If you did one ward with diagnosis and one ward with treatment only, wouldn't we have more fail attempts?. Same with psychiatry.

DNA far as I can tell only needs diagnosis, not treatment.

Now the farthest I've gotten is Duckworth-Upon-Bilge (I'm a perfectionist, what can I say?), but the most clear example I've found is in Smogley with Psychiatry. Psych at Smogley is practically useless since it doesn't effectively diagnose the main conditions found there. But there are patients coming in with Night Fever, which requires treatment in Psych. Unfortunately, said Psychs get bogged down with people going to them for diagnosis between treatment patients and causes patient deaths because they won't get treatment in time after standing in the Psych queue for so long. As the game stands, I have to either constantly watch Psych to clear queues by closing the room once all treatment patients have been treated (always manually bumping them to the front). With the update, I can set Psych to treatment only, so I'll be more inclined to treat rather than always turning them away.

For DNA, it's required to treat Denim Genes, Flumps, Leopard Skin, and Jumbo DNA. So it's both a diagnosis and treatment room. :)

[Venatacia]

Thanks for the reply guys. Will have to look more closely into this. Maybe I haven't been paying enough attention.

Normally I always, were possible, build 2 or more rooms of each anyway so I don't think there is much of a problem.

[acraig71]

I love this update. My DNA lab is always clogged up so this is a great solution. But, we still will eventually have to build two very expensive rooms and hire a specialized doctor.

[Wintermist]

It's great if you want to keep all diagnose rooms close together, and treatment somewhere else. It basically lets you diagnose faster simply because the goonies have to run around less.

[Kainz]

Sadly the whole Treatment/Diagnoses change of the DNA Labs is still a mess because should you assign a doctor with say max diagnoses or treatment to a respective rooms he/she will still pick any random room to work in. The docs don't stick to the room that is associated with their respective trait so it is still a mess.

For example:
Say you have 2x Labs - One set to Treatment and the other Diagnose.

Dr X has training in Genetics, and 4x Diagnosis. He is assigned to a DNA Lab set to Diagnose. This doctor will ALSO happily, without thought goto the other lab that is set to Treatment randomly. Same goes for a doctor with 4x Treatment.

You can't win unless you make your DNA Lab doctors with Genetics and 2x Treatment, 2x Diagnosis, which isn't really that useful.

[Snæbjørn]

Originally posted by Kainz:

Sadly the whole Treatment/Diagnoses change of the DNA Labs is still a mess because should you assign a doctor with say max diagnoses or treatment to a respective rooms he/she will still pick any random room to work in. The docs don't stick to the room that is associated with their respective trait so it is still a mess.

Bahhh. that's one way to fix an issue without fixxing the issue... wasted dev time...

[MaebeKnot]

Originally posted by Kainz:

Sadly the whole Treatment/Diagnoses change of the DNA Labs is still a mess because should you assign a doctor with say max diagnoses or treatment to a respective rooms he/she will still pick any random room to work in. The docs don't stick to the room that is associated with their respective trait so it is still a mess.

For example:
Say you have 2x Labs - One set to Treatment and the other Diagnose.

Dr X has training in Genetics, and 4x Diagnosis. He is assigned to a DNA Lab set to Diagnose. This doctor will ALSO happily, without thought goto the other lab that is set to Treatment randomly. Same goes for a doctor with 4x Treatment.

You can't win unless you make your DNA Lab doctors with Genetics and 2x Treatment, 2x Diagnosis, which isn't really that useful.

We already have the feature to control what rooms/tasks employees do. Please use that to resolve this issue.

[Giblets]

Genetics and 2x Treatment, 2x Diagnosis is quite adequate, the machine itself gives much higher percentage with is the equivalent of having another 2 levels in dig/treat anyway so you're not losing out, plus the natural skill level of your doctor. Best to check your individual doctor states page and see what they're overall % is on Treatment and Diagnosis. Maxing out the

[mas1110]

Originally posted by MaebeKnot:

Originally posted by Kainz:

Sadly the whole Treatment/Diagnoses change of the DNA Labs is still a mess because should you assign a doctor with say max diagnoses or treatment to a respective rooms he/she will still pick any random room to work in. The docs don't stick to the room that is associated with their respective trait so it is still a mess.

For example:
Say you have 2x Labs - One set to Treatment and the other Diagnose.

Dr X has training in Genetics, and 4x Diagnosis. He is assigned to a DNA Lab set to Diagnose. This doctor will ALSO happily, without thought goto the other lab that is set to Treatment randomly. Same goes for a doctor with 4x Treatment.

You can't win unless you make your DNA Lab doctors with Genetics and 2x Treatment, 2x Diagnosis, which isn't really that useful.

We already have the feature to control what rooms/tasks employees do. Please use that to resolve this issue.

Can you make a Treatment level 4 doctor NOT to work in a diagnosis only DNA lab?

[Mortuss]

From what i can see, you can only set what types of rooms a doctors or nurse works in. So if i set up a DNA lab purely for diagnosis a treatment doctors will work in there as I cant set which of the types of room, only that he works in a DNA lab.

[Kainz]

Originally posted by MaebeKnot:

Originally posted by Kainz:

Sadly the whole Treatment/Diagnoses change of the DNA Labs is still a mess because should you assign a doctor with say max diagnoses or treatment to a respective rooms he/she will still pick any random room to work in. The docs don't stick to the room that is associated with their respective trait so it is still a mess.

For example:
Say you have 2x Labs - One set to Treatment and the other Diagnose.

Dr X has training in Genetics, and 4x Diagnosis. He is assigned to a DNA Lab set to Diagnose. This doctor will ALSO happily, without thought goto the other lab that is set to Treatment randomly. Same goes for a doctor with 4x Treatment.

You can't win unless you make your DNA Lab doctors with Genetics and 2x Treatment, 2x Diagnosis, which isn't really that useful.

We already have the feature to control what rooms/tasks employees do. Please use that to resolve this issue.

So how do I stop my doctor trained in 1x Genetics, and 4x Treatment from utilising the DNA Lab, which is set to Diagnose? Because there isn't a control for that - that's what I am getting at.

Setting a room to treat/diagnose is only part of the equation because the doctors who utilise the rooms do so without taking their own skillset into consideration.

[MaebeKnot]

Originally posted by mas1110:

Originally posted by MaebeKnot:

We already have the feature to control what rooms/tasks employees do. Please use that to resolve this issue.

Can you make a Treatment level 4 doctor NOT to work in a diagnosis only DNA lab?

Ah yeah I missed that part. My apologies. The developers need to add a toggle to staff to be cure or diagnosis. If we had this control we could micro-manager what rooms people work in less as well. Setting just the rooms to treatment or diagnosis is really a half measure by the developers.

[thelefthorse]

Originally posted by MaebeKnot:

Originally posted by mas1110:

Can you make a Treatment level 4 doctor NOT to work in a diagnosis only DNA lab?

Ah yeah I missed that part. My apologies. The developers need to add a toggle to staff to be cure or diagnosis. If we had this control we could micro-manager what rooms people work in less as well. Setting just the rooms to treatment or diagnosis is really a half measure by the developers.

+1

[Chaosward™]

Originally posted by MaebeKnot:

Originally posted by mas1110:

Can you make a Treatment level 4 doctor NOT to work in a diagnosis only DNA lab?

Ah yeah I missed that part. My apologies. The developers need to add a toggle to staff to be cure or diagnosis. If we had this control we could micro-manager what rooms people work in less as well. Setting just the rooms to treatment or diagnosis is really a half measure by the developers.

The only room that is needed for is DNA Lab, Ward/Psychiatry 20% to both.

What they need to add is simply Genetics II>V with +10% to both per level. Problem solved.