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RNW Oct 20, 2018 @ 12:25pm
Golden toilets advantages?
Are there any official advantages of Golden Toilets? Also, are there any hidden advantages?

I am not talking about room prestige or raising hospital value. In it's description it says it decreases toilet need but that's what the normal toilet says too, and both types fully satisfy the need anyway.

But I noticed that when I replaced my normal toilets with the golden version, the crowd/queue in the room went away and stayed minimal thereafter. So, is that some kind of hidden bonus? Or is it quicker to use? Or maybe makes patients toilet need rise slower?
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Chaosward™ Oct 20, 2018 @ 1:28pm 
I haven't noticed any benefit other than it being a "Throne fit for a King" I think it may add attractiveness but other than that, I don't use it, I use the normal one and it does the same job, long toilet lines are cause by long lines at your other rooms, reduce those lines and you reduce the toilet line automatically.
Last edited by Chaosward™; Oct 20, 2018 @ 1:35pm
TheSuit Oct 20, 2018 @ 9:46pm 
simply consmetic
Freiya Oct 21, 2018 @ 12:46am 
Many people said it "only" increases attractiveness and I never really paid attention to the golden toilets because of the price. So I just took a look and surprisingly that's not all it does which also justifies the price difference.

First of all and contrary to normal toilets, the golden toilets cast an attractiveness area around them which is quite good and helps a lot to keep the environment attractive (it boosts happiness or to be more accurate in the case of patients, it reduces the happiness loss rate).

https://imgur.com/a/27U8Qa4

Of course, for normal toilets you can still achieve a "similar" result with cheaper objects like awards/posters on the walls but it's less efficient because of next difference.

A big difference between the toilets is that normal toilets start to cast a negative attractiveness area around them when maintenance diminishes. At 20% maintenance and below, if there is nothing to increase attractiveness around it, patients using it or moving nearby will get the "Ugly environment" debuff and lose happiness a bit faster. Even at 0% maintenance, the golden toilets don't cast a negative attractiveness area at all. They only stop providing the "attractive environment" buff by themselves at around 35% maintenance.

https://imgur.com/a/sRBCz0H

The most surprising and important difference that I have never seen mentioned anywhere is that golden toilets lose less maintenance than normal toilets per usage ! Normal toilets lose 10% maintenance whenever someone uses them while the golden toilets lose 5% maintenance when someone uses them.

This means Golden toilets are are twice as "durable" and therefore require less attention from janitors... As a side note, they still both love 10% maintenance when an NPC vomit in them but it shouldn't happen that often since NPC usually vomit in bins.

Edit:
Finally, golden toilets also increase room prestige a lot compared to all other items. This makes it easier to have a higher room prestige level. Even though it's not really useful for patients, it's still quite good for employees since they will receive the happiness boost from the prestige while they are in the room.

@RNW - More testing is required to see if there is any "hidden" advantage, but there are already so many advantages it would be surprising.
Last edited by Freiya; Oct 21, 2018 @ 5:34am
Chaosward™ Oct 21, 2018 @ 1:09am 
Interesting, still won't use them tho. 😈
Nightwolfnl Oct 21, 2018 @ 1:51am 
Originally posted by Freiya:
A big difference between the toilets is that at 20% maintenance and below, the normal toilets start to cast a negative attractiveness area around them. If there is nothing to increase attractiveness around the toilets, patients using them or moving nearby will get the "Ugly environment" debuff and lose happiness a bit faster. For the golden toilets, even at 0% maintenance they don't cast a negative attractiveness area, they only lose their attractiveness bonus.

https://imgur.com/a/sRBCz0H

Finally, the most surprising and important difference that I have never seen mentioned anywhere is that golden toilets lose less maintenance than normal toilets per usage ! Normal toilets lose 10% maintenance whenever someone use them while the golden toilets lose 5% maintenance when someone use them.

This means Golden toilets are are twice as "durable" and therefore require less attention from janitors.

These things I didn't know yet, and it will be interesting to see the effects of it myself when I pay attention to it.
RNW Oct 21, 2018 @ 3:32am 
Originally posted by Freiya:
The most surprising and important difference that I have never seen mentioned anywhere is that golden toilets lose less maintenance than normal toilets per usage ! Normal toilets lose 10% maintenance whenever someone use them while the golden toilets lose 5% maintenance when someone use them.

This means Golden toilets are are twice as "durable" and therefore require less attention from janitors...

Very useful info Freiya, thanks! Also I believe the above is related to an indirect improvement in the toilet queues, because of less time wasted by janitors doing maintenance while no one can use them. If there are no other available toilets when janitors do maintenance this problem amplifies itself. Golden toilets help solve this by needing less maintenance, meaning more toilets available at any time and less like to form queues.

Of course queues elsewhere play a role too but here we are examining whether a specific item can help if all other factors remain equal. It seems golden toilets can help, and their cost is minimal for 3-star hospitals (sometimes you might have to delay upgrading until then).

If anyone notices anything else worth investigating, please post!
Freiya Oct 21, 2018 @ 5:02am 
I checked an employee using a normal toilet and a golden toilet and it didn't change anything regarding the toilet need decay speed. So there doesn't seem to be a hidden modifier linked to the the toilet type.

The decay speed of the toilet need seems to be impacted by thirst, hunger and toilet need itself, I am not sure there are other factors (except employee's trait "weak bladder"). When an employee is hungry and thirsty and have the toilets need at around 35%, the decay of the toilet need can become very very very slow. Not sure what's the exact formula behind it...
Last edited by Freiya; Oct 21, 2018 @ 5:37am
RNW Oct 21, 2018 @ 6:23am 
Interesting, so that kind of emulates real life. It also has the side effect that when there are queues/delays elsewhere, patients will eat/drink between appointments and accelerate their toilet needs (more than time itself would), further worsening toilet queue if/when maximum capacity is reached. There is where the golden toilets appear to help by reducing the maintenance need/downtime to keep available capacity as high as possible.

For me this is totally worth the cost. But I would not upgrade too early (there is no need anyway) since there are more important needs early on. Later on, definitely upgrade, it is a one-time cost with a permanent effect on the map.
JIM 9000 Oct 21, 2018 @ 6:13pm 
I've seen staff members wait for a free golden toilet, when there are empty regular toilets in the same restroom.
TrueBlue_Oz Oct 21, 2018 @ 9:12pm 
Well i would say gold is easier to clean than porcelain... lol
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